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Date:      Fri, 28 May 1999 20:12:53 -0500 (CDT)
From:      John Preisler <john@vapornet.net>
To:        Michael Richards <026809r@dragon.acadiau.ca>
Cc:        Dima <dima@nic.mmc.net.ge>, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: System beeing cracked!
Message-ID:  <14159.15859.140011.281075@habanero.chili-pepper.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9905282044021.14284-100000@dragon>
References:  <199905280927.OAA08009@nic.mmc.net.ge> <Pine.GSO.4.05.9905282044021.14284-100000@dragon>

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You never mentioned which 3rd party applications [ports,packages, et
cetera] you installed on this machine.  its quite possible one of
those were compromised [see also qpopper, imapd, and wu-ftpd]


$0.02 worth.

-j



Michael Richards writes:
 > On Fri, 28 May 1999, Dima wrote:
 > 
 > > can hack into my system. He has ordinary account opened. So, he win! And
 > > i'am wondering if there are any security holes in 3.1? He login as
 > > himself via telnet, then he made him root (but he was not in wheel group
 > > and ofcourse did not know root password) and what is more interesting he
 > Finding an exploitable suid program would allow this to happen.
 > 
 > > cracked several password. He made all this in 2 houres, and password was
 > > minimal 10 symbols lenght, containg different case and digits. I am
 > > using MD5 codding, and as I knew it is impossible. Has someone any idea
 > I would do 2 things:
 > a) take your master.passwd file and run crack on it yourself and see if it
 > finds the passwords itself. I played with crack once a long time ago and
 > based on what you've said about the cracked password, I belive it is more
 > likely that he 
 > a) broke root
 > b) sniffed the passwords
 > 
 > or maybe he shoulder surfed the passwords... I don't believe that md5 can
 > be cracked that quickly. I guess it depends on the randomness of the
 > password.  "thisissEcur3" might take a week, but crack will still get it.
 > I think one of the first rules is to replace [il]=1 e=3 s=5 a=4 and all
 > the other commonly substituted letters.
 > 
 > -Michael
 > 
 > 
 > 
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