From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 5 12:47:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A2037B401 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F6C43F3F for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:47:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0205.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.205] helo=mindspring.com) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18gWQw-0005Wy-00; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:46:16 -0800 Message-ID: <3E4177B9.78985E43@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:44:41 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bakul Shah Cc: Rahul Siddharthan , "Pedro F. Giffuni" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GGI (was: Project Status) References: <200302052016.PAA26626@repulse.cnchost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4b40e738d3935534cfe70043505a90772667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bakul Shah wrote: > > X has forever suffered from fixed cell rendering. GGI will not fix > > this; changing X would. Several companies have done this in the > > past: NeXT, with NeXTStep, Sony with NeWS, etc. > > Terry, your memory needs some sort of ECC. It was Sun who > did NeWS (Network extensible Window System). SGI too picked > it up for a while. IIRC Sony had a machine called News (with > whatever cApItaLization) but that is a horse of a different > color. It was a dual processor Motorolla box. I had one for a while to do some XPG/4 localization on some software. 8-). It had Sun's NeWS on it, and it has the same capitalization in its name. FWIW, I've never seen a box actually running NeWS, except for the one from Sony. > If by fixed cell rendering you mean one-to-one mapping > between a character and a glyph (grpahical shape) I agree. > The situation with Indic scripts is considerably more complex > where multiple characters can map to a single glyph, where > there are many more glyphs than characters, the glyph of a > char depends on the position of the char in a word and so on. > But without kernel based graphics support I don't see any > hope of getting truly first class support for Indic scripts. Exactly. That alone should justify a GGI. That, and console support for Kanji, Hangul, and other ideogrammatic languages. We'll also need it to run forts of Goa'uld software. 8-) 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message