From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 22 19:57:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E0216A41F; Tue, 22 May 2007 19:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwin@mail.droso.net) Received: from mail.droso.net (koala.droso.net [193.88.12.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C7813C45B; Tue, 22 May 2007 19:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwin@mail.droso.net) Received: by mail.droso.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 841711CC2D; Tue, 22 May 2007 21:57:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:57:29 +0200 From: Erwin Lansing To: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070522195729.GX71905@droso.net> Mail-Followup-To: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org References: <6eb82e0705211928q29881391k4da2e1a738af800d@mail.gmail.com> <4652579B.4080209@delphij.net> <6eb82e0705211954y7db95e87mdda62228e31ea013@mail.gmail.com> <20070522043637.GA65742@bsdcrew.de> <20070522072115.GC59910@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070522072545.GQ71905@droso.net> <20070522090136.C28D850BEB@unixfreunde.net> <867ir1yxv8.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070522101643.GO71905@droso.net> <20070522191617.GA77470@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bEAlbH1hodbw2omC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070522191617.GA77470@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: Subject: Re: tinderbox and bad system call X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 19:57:31 -0000 --bEAlbH1hodbw2omC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 03:16:17PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > Tinderboxes have always had to cope with this (in the past that mostly > just affected me). Sometimes when a new CURRENT is forked you can get > away with running the previous version for a while longer because the > kernel ABI usually only diverges slowly. Eventually there is always > an incompatible change and tinderbox machines must be upgraded to run > CURRENT. This is just the price of progress. >=20 > As a bonus, you get to help with QA of FreeBSD-CURRENT, which you'll > be thankful for in the long run since you'll be using that branch > sooner or later no matter what you do. >=20 Exactly the non-joke part in my joke (unfortunately, some people seem to ignore or overlook smileys), it would be great if developers could run -CURRENT on at least some of their systems, but I also understand that not everyone has access to hardward to do this. My personal tinderbox runs on my workstation at work, as this is the fastest machine I have access to, and that is too critical to run anything more recent than -STABLE. The amd64 box of the shared tinderboxes available to committers does run -CURRENT though, and I will try (or try to convince Simon) to upgrade the i386 box as well one of these days, so committers have access to test these ports that are running into trouble after the recent events. -erwin --=20 Erwin Lansing http://droso.org Security is like an onion. (o_ _o) It's made up of several layers \\\_\ /_/// erwin@FreeBSD.org And it makes you cry. <____) (____> erwin@aauug.dk --bEAlbH1hodbw2omC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGU0spqy9aWxUlaZARAofKAKCQePfNjdQE9aGcDTBUJfjZjPTFkwCfQg5m cHyCnvnf3Fz6ImEKMwS5agA= =La5c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bEAlbH1hodbw2omC--