From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 23:10:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0208106566C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 23:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539448FC17 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 23:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so3570796qyk.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 16:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.216.6 with SMTP id hg6mr4094148qab.186.1304723402205; Fri, 06 May 2011 16:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s16sm2992854qco.1.2011.05.06.16.09.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 May 2011 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QR82Z5PTNz2CG4n for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 19:09:58 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110506190958.09bf60bf@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110506195047.621c5d13.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110506195047.621c5d13.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 23:10:03 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011 19:50:47 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > On Fri, 6 May 2011 10:30:58 -0700, David Brodbeck > wrote: > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman > > wrote: > > Believe it or not, there are industries where faxing is still the > > norm. > > Don't just think about "big industries", also keep small > businesses in mind - LOTS of them. A manager writes a > letter, prints it, faxes it to the secretary, she then > types it, prints it, and faxes it back to the manager. > In case the manager requires some changes, he phones > her, or makes annotations to her fax and faxes it back. > Then she processes the changes and faxes the result > again. On both sides, it's an inkpee fax. If it's not > used heavily enough, it will dry out. Are you joking? Why would anyone create a document, print it and then FAX it? I create documents all the time in MS Word and then FAX the document directly to the intended recipient. No printing required. And why would the manager FAX it to a secretary to be transcribed and printed then FAXed back? There are so many solutions to this that the only answer that I can conceive of in this situation is that you are describing an office environment from the 60's, unless you were just joking to begin with. > You think: Stupid! Inefficient! Expensive! Absolutely > Fully correct. And it's more the _norm_ than the exception, > at least here in Germany. > > There are enough businesses that could invest in a > computer-driven fax system (storage instead of paper, > printing if and ONLY IF required), but they are too > lazy in mind. > > > Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by fax. > > This has to do with a legal situation in many cases. > A fax, unlike an e-mail, is often said to have a status > like "letter with receipt", so the statement: "You > did get the message." can be made from sending a fax > and applying the receipt printed by the fax machine > (sending report). > > Also printing a text, signing it, and then faxing it > makes it look "more legal". My legal signature has been scanned and stored so that I can simply add it to any document I created sans the whole wasteful printing operation, assuming that I do not require a hard copy. > > It also > > seems to be the common way that pharmacies communicate with doctors' > > offices. These are conservative industries where email (and > > especially, email attachments) are still viewed with some suspicion. It is legal in many locals in the US to FAX a prescription into a pharmacy. The same applies to many legal documents for use in courts, etcetera. I have never seen an e-mailed document accepted though.