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Date:      Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:24:08 -0300
From:      Renato Botelho <rbgarga@gmail.com>
To:        perl@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Clang now builds world and kernel, on i386 and amd64
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On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Renato Botelho <rbgarga@gmail.com> wrote:
> Could you guys give us some help on this?
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Roman Divacky <rdivacky@freebsd.org>
> Date: Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Clang now builds world and kernel, on i386 and amd64
> To: Renato Botelho <rbgarga@gmail.com>
> Cc: Derek Tattersall <dlt@mebtel.net>, Dimitry Andric
> <dim@freebsd.org>, current@freebsd.org
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 02:41:17PM -0300, Renato Botelho wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Roman Divacky <rdivacky@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:56:59AM -0400, Derek Tattersall wrote:
>> >> * Dimitry Andric <dim@freebsd.org> [100929 08:55]:
>> >> > On 2010-09-29 13:23, Renato Botelho wrote:
>> >> > > #!/usr/bin/perl
>> >> > >
>> >> > > use File::Temp;
>> >> > >
>> >> > > my ( $fh, $filename ) = File::Temp::tempfile();
>> >> > > print "$filename\n";
>> >> >
>> >> > For me it works perfectly, though I am using perl 5.10:
>> >> >
>> >> > $ cat foo.pl
>> >> > #!/usr/bin/perl
>> >> >
>> >> > use File::Temp;
>> >> >
>> >> > my ( $fh, $filename ) = File::Temp::tempfile();
>> >> > print "$filename\n";
>> >> > $ perl -v
>> >> >
>> >> > This is perl, v5.10.1 (*) built for i386-freebsd-64int
>> >> >
>> >> > Copyright 1987-2009, Larry Wall
>> >> >
>> >> > Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the
>> >> > GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit.
>> >> >
>> >> > Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on
>> >> > this system using "man perl" or "perldoc perl". ?If you have access to the
>> >> > Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.org/, the Perl Home Page.
>> >> >
>> >> > $ perl foo.pl
>> >> > /tmp/tv25CPnWhF
>> >> > $ perl foo.pl
>> >> > /tmp/L2UJQ5_JJs
>> >> > $ perl foo.pl
>> >> > /tmp/6ynQYvWIc1
>> >> > $ perl foo.pl
>> >> > /tmp/Tdpf7PKBMg
>> >> > $ perl foo.pl
>> >> > /tmp/76ir2i1ici
>> >> > $ perl foo.pl
>> >> > /tmp/LhfD0eZgd8
>> >> >
>> >> > I'll try building perl 5.12 and try it again.
>> >> >
>> >> > Btw, I assume you did *not* rebuild perl with clang, so your perl is
>> >> > still compiled with gcc?
>> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> I built a test case using perl 5.12 and demonstrated that calling int(rand())
>> >> in perl returns NAN, as does calling rand() by itself. ?A "C" program
>> >> that calls libc's rand() does return differing integers. ?The perl
>> >> documentation claims that perl's rand() calls "C"s rand() and srand() if
>> >> necessary. ?I think this effectively demonstrates that the problem lies
>> >> with the perl function rand() and it's interface to libc's rand() as
>> >> provided by clang.
>> >>
>> >> On a recent stable system, perl's mktemp works fine. ?The only real
>> >> difference is that libc on stable is built with gcc and libc on current
>> >> is built with clang.
>> >
>> > what does this show with clang libc?
>> >
>> > perl -e 'print int(rand(60)) . " \n" foreach (1 .. 10)'
>> >
>> > I guess it returns all 0, as the $CHAR[0] is 'A', can you test that?
>> >
>>
>> root@botelhor:/usr/src/lib/libc# perl -e 'print int(rand(60)) . " \n"
>> foreach (1 .. 10)'
>> nan
>> nan
>> nan
>> nan
>> nan
>> nan
>> nan
>> nan
>> nan
>> nan
>
> heh, now I noticed that Derek already wrote that ;) is anyone able
> to find where in perl sources the rand function is defined? I failed
> that :(
>
>
>
> --
> Renato Botelho
>

Sent to rdivacky and current and forgot to copying you, problem is not
perl related, sorry about noise.

It's using drand48() instead of rand()

root@botelhor:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.12# make configure |& grep -i rand
drand48_r() NOT found.
random_r() NOT found.
srand48_r() NOT found.
srandom_r() NOT found.
Looking for a random number function...
Good, found drand48().
Use which function to generate random numbers? [drand48]
Checking how to generate random libraries on your machine...

Test results here:

GCC libc:
garga@botelhor:~/testes> ./test
random value 0.396465

clang libc:
garga@botelhor:~/testes> ./test
random value -inf

Source of test.c:

#include <stdlib.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>

int main() {
       printf("random value %f\n", drand48());
       exit(0);
}


-- 
Renato Botelho



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