From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Aug 9 16:02:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19392 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 16:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (mail.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA19376 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 16:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ernie by casparc.ppp.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0wxKWI-000o7UC; Sun, 10 Aug 97 01:02 MET DST Received: from bert.kts.org(really [194.55.156.2]) by ernie.kts.org via sendmail with smtp id for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 00:10:38 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2.0.91 1997-Jan-14 #2 built 1997-Feb-8) Received: by bert.kts.org via sendmail with stdio id for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 00:03:48 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #7 built 1997-Jul-4) Message-Id: From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: ISDN drivers/cards In-Reply-To: from "Jamil J. Weatherbee" at "Aug 9, 97 11:12:17 am" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 00:03:48 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Kitchen Table Systems Reply-To: hm@kts.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jamil J. Weatherbee wrote: [...] > actually my idea would be an internal card that > looks like an ne2000.. Maybye it already exists for use in the US but I > have not been able to find any. This would be nice. Even the cards which are emulating an UART are nice. The real drawback is, that you can use such cards for nothing but data transfer. But ISDN allows you to do zillions of other applications, and i'd like - at least - to be able to explore and use them, what i can't with a card emulating a ne2000. The only alternative to an ISDN card - as i see it - is a nice concept, the concept of a "virtual CAPI": an ISDN router you can talk TCP/IP to and where you can access this virtual CAPI by talking to a special port, then all you have to do to do i.e. telephony is to put CAPI messages into IP packets and you can telephone over the router. One manufacturer of such device is Bintec (i'm in no way affiliated with them, not even as a customer), look at www.bintec.de to get an impression (i think they even support the US ISDN protocols). And if anybody now asks what a CAPI is, have a look at www.capi.org. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org Hamburg, Europe There is a difference between an open mind and a hole in the head