From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 30 18: 0:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5693437B400 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CRWdog.demon.co.uk (ppp-67-116-46-57.dialup.sntc01.pacbell.net [67.116.46.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01CF43E65 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:00:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spadger@best.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by CRWdog.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DF148B; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:59:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Fred Clift Cc: Barney Wolff , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cursor (trackpoint) "creep" with moused? In-Reply-To: Message from Fred Clift of "Fri, 30 Aug 2002 09:09:24 MDT." <20020830090650.J35161-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-871450593P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:59:33 -0400 From: Andy Sparrow Message-Id: <20020831005933.B5DF148B@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-871450593P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Toshiba trackpoints will ocasionally recalibrate themselves, which > manifests as about 5 seconds of creep - longer if you try and fight it :). Exactly - this in fact, was what I was doing, which I've only realised since I understood the underlying mechanism. As soon as I noticed the creep, I'd both become acutely aware of it, and try to compensate for it - which made it persist. When I first saw this, I thought that the trackpoint hadn't correctly returned to a neutral position, so I'd try to provide input and hope that it would, in fact, center itself (and at least I'd keep the mouse near where I wanted it to be). I seem to have never lost this habit - which is, of course, precisely what you /shouldn't/ do, if the hardware is to compensate for some bias. Now, in fact, I'm having fun with it. I can provoke it at will by gently applying pressure in a single direction. After a few seconds, it "notices" that there's an inbuilt bias, and the creep will stop - at which point, releasing the pressure gives a creep in the opposite direction, which similarly lasts for a few seconds before it corrects again. > At least on toshiba my porteget 300CT and 320CT laptops lthis is so, and I > hear from many other toshiba users that this is 'normal'. > > As for minutes of creep (the original poster mentioned it fixing itself > after 45 seconds...) Heh. This would appear to be some kind of time dilation effect due to irritation. It certainly doesn't take that long now... Thanks all! AS --==_Exmh_-871450593P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE9cBT1PHh895bDXeQRAuyjAKDLoA6pLGXllIF5+oxdeZ+z8eMICwCcDHeK 7N5sNiqnna+jd9MaYIhZWng= =vj2l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-871450593P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message