From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 4 16:38:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E3C106566B for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 16:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rik@inse.ru) Received: from ns.rikbsd.org (ns.rikbsd.org [95.143.215.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CE48FC0C for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 16:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wn.rikbsd.org [192.168.1.254]) by ns.rikbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EE3AB5CE1E; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 17:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EDBA3C9.7050904@inse.ru> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:46:01 +0400 From: Roman Kurakin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20110906) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Laursen References: <20111202115446.GB25963@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4ED974A2.7080606@FreeBSD.org> <4ED9EA27.8090206@inse.ru> <4EDABDE8.9060406@FreeBSD.org> <4EDB8BB5.50607@borderworlds.dk> In-Reply-To: <4EDB8BB5.50607@borderworlds.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS removal from the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:38:12 -0000 Christian Laursen wrote: > On 12/04/11 01:25, Doug Barton wrote: > > [snip] > > Replying to a somewhat random mail in this thread. > > Has anyone considerede that the people actually using CVS for getting > the source might be somewhat overrepresented on freebsd-current? Probably you are right. I guess I would never use CVS if I wouldn't be a software developer and was not able to fix smth by my self. But as a developer I like to see the tool I got accustomed out of the box as it was to for many years. Especially after I've started to help to friends working in companies with restricted Internet access or detached systems. I've started to hate most of linux distributions since they do not have almost any tool for digging and solving problems. But with FreeBSD I even can solve the problem from my seat just giving instructions by phone or skype. rik > If I had to guess, the average user is using either freebsd-update or > csup (or even cvsup) to update a freshly installed system. Those that > need the added flexibility provided by using CVS directly should be > fully able to install it using pkg_add. > > Personally I pkg_add screen on new systems before doing anything else. > I have never considered that a problem. > > I use CVS myself from time to time, but I see no need for it to be in > base for that reason. > > BTW. I think the bikeshed should be painted blue. >