From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Apr 5 13:35:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from nero.cybersites.com (nero.cybersites.com [207.92.123.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A827715545 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:35:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cyouse@cybersites.com) Received: from ns1.cybersites.com (ns1.cybersites.com [207.92.123.2]) by nero.cybersites.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA18824; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:40:19 -0400 From: Chuck Youse To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdb 4.17 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:29:55 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: Cc: chuckr@glue.umd.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99040516311000.17621@ns1.cybersites.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, you make a valid point. I'll keep my mouth shut until I actually have something of substance in hand. Chuck On Mon, 05 Apr 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chuck Youse wrote: > > > I'll have to put my vote in here too. Please include alternative > > architecture support. I ordered an eval NetWinder the other day, > > and will be launching a FreeBSD port shortly thereafter. The "net > > appliance" wave is great -- the fact that Linux is really the only > > choice thus far is not so great. > > > > Can't wait to have a rack full of FreeBSD NetWinders ... > > I hear this a lot, but it's a little hard to believe, then there's never > any code. It's fine when it's your hobby, but you guys are asking > everyone to take in code, which you could very easily add yourselves on > your own hook. I know it's fun, and I've got my own hobby things hidden > around here that haven't all gotten as far as I'd hoped, but I don't ask > everyone to pay the freight for them, either, so I feel justified. > > I hate to be a part-pooper. Is it not true that you can add, on your > own machine, all the bits you want for your projects on your own? And, > also, that just the moment your project starts to show even the teeniest > bit of life, that *at that point* the code could be added to FreeBSD? > > It's starting to seem that merely the vaguest wish that a FreeBSD port > might be nice, is enough to qualify for including all the support code. > I don't want to place the too high, but how about the possibility of > placing the bar just a small step higher? > > Maybe you could suggest some rules on where to set the bar? Something > you feel would be fair to you, fair to the FreeBSDers who don't want > FreeBSD to get too overweight, and also easy to quantify, so we avoid > arguments in the future. > > > Chuck > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 1999, Robert Swindells wrote: > > > Warner Losh wrote: > > > >In message Chuck Robey writes: > > > >: You know what you're doing, but I want to suggest that perhaps you want > > > >: to run that archs part past Warner, who recently (boy, I hope it was > > > >: Warner, I think it was) added the MIPS stuff into the tree, and is > > > >: pretty strongly in favor of making cross-compilation possible. > > > > > > >Yes. I added support to our binutils to generate mips binaries. I > > > >think that if other groups want their port in the tree, that should be > > > >the first step, with the second making egcs work for the port. I hope > > > >to have that done in the next couple of weeks. The only other two > > > >architectures that I think there'd be support for would be sparc and > > > >arm. > > > > > > I would vote for including sparc and arm as well. > > > > > > I'm getting a SparcStation next month and want to get either a > > > SA1100/SA1101 evaluation board or a Chaltech motherboard for > > > work. > > > > > > Robert Swindells > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > -- > > Chuck Youse > > Director of Systems > > cyouse@cybersites.com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) > (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message