From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 20 18:29:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C2C37B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00326; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:29:22 -0700 Message-ID: <39C96471.4A031E4D@urx.com> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:29:21 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Uhring Cc: Charlie Root , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA write errors on stable and release References: <200009202229.e8KMThw12433@oblomow.demon.nl> <39C94161.19E4D26B@urx.com> <00092018390000.00177@dave> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Uhring wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > > Charlie Root wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum to ask, but since it concerns > > > 4.1 stable I might as well try. > > > > > > Since switching to a new motherboard I get the following errors: > > > > > > Sep 14 22:37:27 oblomow /kernel.GENERIC: ad0: UDMA ICRC WRITE ERROR blk# > > > 2523344 retrying Sep 14 22:37:27 oblomow /kernel.GENERIC: ad0: UDMA ICRC > > > WRITE ERROR blk# 2535904 retrying > > > > > > Not only with this installation ( 4.1 Release ) but also with 4.1 stable > > > (see attached messages file) > > > > > > I changed from an Abit AX5 motherboard with a K6 to an Abit KT7 with a > > > Duron 600 (Via chipset). > > > Eventually these errors disappear because the system decides to switch to > > > PIO4 mode for disk access. I have gone through the mailing list archive > > > and found several more reports about this, but no solution there. > > > > > > The cable used to attach these UDMA33/66 capable drives is new and not > > > too long and should be capable of handling these speeds. The disks that > > > worked are 2 * WDC AC34300L. I also tried a new IBM GXP 30 GB with the > > > same result. > > > > > > Suggestions anyone? > > > > Do a "man ata" and learn how to use sysctl to turn off UDMA33+ on your > > motherboard. The Via chips and the ata driver seem to be very > > sensitive to some UDMA drive combinations. You can corrupt your data > > in really bad situations, which occured at 4.0-Release, and degrading > > to PIO 4 or using SCSI HD's seems to be the only solution at this > > point. The sysctl commands go into /etc/sysctl.conf > > > > Kent > > > > > Marc Albers > > > > > > /var/log/messages: > - - snipped - - > > I had the identical problem with 4.0-R on a FIC-VA503A MB using the VIA MVP4 > chipset. Do you mean that the VIA KT133 chipset for the Athlon/Duron in > UDMA66 mode is unsupported by FreeBSD, also? If so, this is really a shame > because the UDMA66 chipset improves Bonnie benchmarks by 25-30% with OpenBSD > and Linux. BTW, on a FIC PA2013 MB with the MVP3 chipset, FreeBSD fully > supports UDMA33 mode, at least for the HD. If you go back to the archives and look at the trouble, most of the UDMA problems have been associated with the Via chips (in general) and UDMA. Some combinations of HD's and MB's are worse than others. There are people with UDMA drives that aren't having problems. There are people with UDMA drives that were being trashed during the boot. There are people that replaced the 80-pin UDMA cables with 40-pin cables to get around the problem. I have 4 UDMA66 drives hooked up to 440bx boards that don't have problems unless I try to boot them dirty and I get the message on one system. As soon as I fsck the drives, the problem went away. I don't think that 4.1-Stable has as many problems as 4.0-Release did. I don't know any more than this. They transfer data significantly faster in UDMA mode. Kent > > Dave -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message