From nobody Mon Oct 20 20:10:24 2025 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cr64Y6yKyz6D37K for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2025 20:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@twisted.org.uk) Received: from toybox.twisted.org.uk (toybox.twisted.org.uk [176.126.242.130]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cr64X3HJSz3FGc for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2025 20:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@twisted.org.uk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=twisted.org.uk header.s=tbx-short header.b=LNIcx29h; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=twisted.org.uk; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pete@twisted.org.uk designates 176.126.242.130 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pete@twisted.org.uk DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=twisted.org.uk; s=tbx-short; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: In-Reply-To:From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc; bh=7vArbOzifgreUDQ0M2VTRHe6PpX8xEMApGvQ2yYeocI=; t=1760991052; x=1761855052; b=LNIcx29hCor4gJ5fnGt6Oy6g0RoysWW7Aed1+MvzEKd3EfVeKIYXF0aa37S/MIcW5TssCkDbHfT yP9885RtJvh/qMeh1PF5MNrYioGahPKVkVt0sG3s35WGqyCoYiivbW66LCb5o0vGCCPC/nyf26E3h DmePaOY0NnC/7qJmPaY=; Received: from mailnull by toybox.twisted.org.uk with spamc-scanned (Exim 4.98.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1vAwD3-000000003AO-2PUU for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2025 21:10:45 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on toybox.twisted.org.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 () Received: from balta.twisted.org.uk ([2001:470:6cc4:1::57]) by toybox.twisted.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.98.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1vAwD3-000000003AL-1qyn for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2025 21:10:25 +0100 Message-ID: <20998fc7-08a5-44d9-9f59-a8f6a9136340@twisted.org.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 21:10:24 +0100 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: FreeBSD 15.0-BETA2 Now Available To: stable@freebsd.org References: Content-Language: en-GB From: Pete French In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-spamc-toybox: true X-transport-toybox: lookuphost X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.994]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[twisted.org.uk,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[twisted.org.uk:s=tbx-short]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:toybox.twisted.org.uk]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:44684, ipnet:176.126.240.0/21, country:GB]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[twisted.org.uk:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cr64X3HJSz3FGc On 20/10/2025 18:04, Colin Percival wrote: > No, pkgbase is considered "experimental" in 14; the intended upgrade path > for 14.x (and older) systems is > > 1. FreeBSD Update to 15. > 2. Run pkgbasify at some point during the lifetime of 15.x. > 3. Use packages (probably via a freebsd-update front-end) to upgrade to 16. So will we be able to carry on with buildworld / installworld after the end of 15 ? IF not then whats the new process for people who cpmpile their own stuff ? -pete.