Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:00:41 -0400 From: Yuval Levy <yuval_levy@yahoo.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: filesystems not properly unmounted [OT] Message-ID: <42A46519.5080003@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <200506061402.j56E22tG021214@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200506061402.j56E22tG021214@lurza.secnetix.de>
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Oliver Fromme wrote: >I do look carefully every day, because it's my job. I work >with various operating systems every day, including FreeBSD >and Linux. > > From a professional I would expect a more mature and balanced approach, rather than "my favorite OS is the best one and the others have no advantages". Be real: there is a lot of diversity of OS out there and they all have advantages and disadvantages. For as much as I love FreeBSD, it is not (and probably can't be) better than all OS on all comparisons. Diversity is good, most existing OS have their rightful place in the IT ecosystem. > > Just to mention the first thing that comes to my mind: several linux > > distros have achieved a difficult goal: ease of installation-use > > combined with a stable system. > >Yup, I know the usual freebsd-for-servers and linux-for- >desktops arguments. And to be honest, I'm fed up with >them. They're lies. I'm running FreeBSD on my desktop >at home, a lot of people are happily running Linux on >their servers, and I've seen people successfully installing >FreeBSD who have never even heard the word "unix" until >that day. > > You can run FreeBSD on your desktop at home because you have the skills, the time, the dedication. You are special. Every human being is special and there are plenty of us out there that have other skills and want to dedicate their time to something else (like <http://www.photopla.net/pano.php?id=25>). They do not share your view. I do not share your view. This does not make us liars. I am moving my servers from Linux to FreeBSD, because FreeBSD gives me the manageability, stability and security that are more important to my clients than the bleeding edge features that often make it into Linux first. I am generally inclined toward Open Source software over proprietary one, but will pragmatically mix and match to obtain what works best for me rather than dogmatically pretend that my favorite OS is the best and its filesystem is the brightest and its license is the only acceptable distribution form. Which brings me back to the topic of this thread: is there anybody out there with the skills to cleanly solve this shameful situation in which rebooting FreeBSD results in unclean mounting of ext2 (and potentially other) volumes? Yuv
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