From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 2 10:51:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648E237B401 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:51:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from issv0171.isis.de (issv0171.isis.de [195.158.131.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3277543F93 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:51:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charlie@begeistert.org) Received: (qmail 26212 invoked by uid 1010); 2 Apr 2003 18:51:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wonderland.1049306324.fake) ([213.128.126.156]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.isis.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Apr 2003 18:51:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:53:04 +0200 From: Charlie Clark In-Reply-To: <200304021037.13970.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Message-Id: <20030402205304.11296.2@wonderland.1049306324.fake> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20030402154658.11242.qmail@web20302.mail.yahoo.com> <20030402105412.2cd06164.asenchi@asenchi.com> <1049299977.340.25.camel@Toto.dippgw.homedns.org> <200304021037.13970.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> To: Johnson David User-Agent: Beam devel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cc: FreeBSD-Newbies Subject: Re: Web Browsers. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 18:51:13 -0000 On 2003-04-02 at 20:37:13 [+0200], Johnson David wrote: > Flash is pretty much broken all around on FreeBSD. The reason is that the > Macromedia flash plugin is only for Linux. Therefore you can't run a > native FreeBSD browser and get decent flash, you need to run a Linux port > of a browser using the Linux plugin. so the Linux plug-in will run on BSD if Linux compatability is enabled? How dependent is this on XFree86 and any window manager on top of this: I guess the runtime is quite easy to encapsulate and the rest should be calls to XFree86 / KDE, aren't they? > This is NOT the fault of FreeBSD, it is the fault of Macromedia, who > continues to promote proprietary software as a web standard. Shame on > them! Hold your horses: Flash was developed at a time when there was no alternative for that kind of content (AWT / Swing was and still is IMHO a joke and also just as proprietary) and Flash has its uses just like PDF from Adobe does. While it would be nice for Macromedia to maintain a BSD-Flash player I can understand why they don't. On BeOS a third party, the General Coffee Company developed and released their own player so this should be possible on BSD. Of course, Macromedia's recent attempt to relaunch a complete Flash -ased website backfired and that's the best thing that could happen to them: they've gone back to mixing Flash with HTML. Charlie