From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Feb 9 11:19:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABA0F37B6A6 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 84247 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Feb 2001 19:18:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:18:49 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Mike Smith Cc: Matt Dillon , "Michael C . Wu" , Mitch Collinsworth , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extremely large (70TB) File system/server planning Message-ID: <20010209201849.B48420@rohrbach.de> Reply-To: karsten@rohrbach.de References: <200102051750.f15HoZ021657@earth.backplane.com> <200102052052.f15KqOe00985@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200102052052.f15KqOe00985@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 12:52:24PM -0800 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-Sender: karsten@rohrbach.de Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith(msmith@freebsd.org)@Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 12:52:24PM -0800: > > You can't do this with a NetApp either; they max out at about 6TB now > (going up to around 12 or so soon). You might want to talk to EMC and/or > IBM, both of whom have *extremely* large filers. from my experiences with filers (we have both, country and western here - eg. netapp f740/760 and emc^2 symmetrix/connectrix) i can only say that emc is a pile of sh** - no pun intended. actually the boxes work okay, but you need a shitload of datamover boxes from emc to achieve performance similar to netapp's 760 series (up to 12 data movers with 2gig of ram each). emc goes brute force, netapp use their brains. when it comes to ibm, as far as i understand you have to hook up their filers to rs/6000(aix) or s/370 or s/390 systems since they are "only" fibrechannel or ficon attached raid subsystems, so the client platform is responsible for handling all the filesystem stuff. you might also check out lsi logic's filer products, i think they support 12tb via nas. > > Your friend may also want to look at Traakan, who have a novel product in > this space. i checked out their website which says "under construction" strange... /k > > -- > ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his > rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want > to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force > people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] > V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message -- > Hackers know all the right MOVs. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message