Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:36:53 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Eric Fagan <sef@kithrup.com> To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/9864: make rblcheck use relay.orbs.org instead of Message-ID: <199902052336.PAA15733@kithrup.com> In-Reply-To: <199902051757.KAA27449.kithrup.freebsd.chat@usr05.primenet.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.00.9902050025040.28271-100000@super-g.inch.com> from "spork" at Feb 5, 99 00:32:19 am
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In article <199902051757.KAA27449.kithrup.freebsd.chat@usr05.primenet.com> you write: >What this means is that it's not cost effective to SPAM me, and, >in fact, damages the value of the list you have purchased by making >you less able to use it. If the thieves actually thought, this would be true. However... we receive spam sent to rbl@maps.vix.com. Spammers send directly to paul@vix.com. Even Sanford Wallace (cyberpromo delenda est!) learned not to do that. You do not understand spammers, Terry. Most of them are ignorant; there's a lot of first-time abuse that stops. Of the rest, they are thieves. Many of them are attracted to the "something for nothing" idea; many of them use throw-away accounts, sending email to 100k to 4M addresses at a shot (yes, seriously -- I get to talk with AOL postmaster people periodically), at what is very close to free. Or is free in many cases -- many professional spammers commit credit card fraud in order to get a throw-away dialup account that will be used for about 10 hours, and then never used again. Trust me, Terry: if "cost effectiveness" entered into it, my system would receive *no* spam. And yet it does, and this has cost spammers hundreds of thousands of dollars. (One today claimed I had cost him seventy thousand dollars in sales since Wednesday.) Spam is theft. And thieves are stupid, immoral, and not to be tolerated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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