From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 04:24:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA12912 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 04:24:02 -0700 Received: from server.netcraft.co.uk (server.netcraft.co.uk [194.72.238.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA12905 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 04:23:58 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by server.netcraft.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA00771; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:22:56 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199508141122.MAA00771@server.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk (Gary Palmer) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:22:56 +0100 (BST) Cc: terry@cs.weber.edu, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2010.808247165@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Aug 12, 95 06:06:05 pm Reply-to: paul@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1824 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Gary Palmer who said > > In message <9508112032.AA08265@cs.weber.edu>, Terry Lambert writes: > >> There's a problem. I need to use fake ip addresses on the > >> internal side of the FreeBSD box since there's only a single valid ip > >> address allocated. I've thought about using socks on the FreeBSD box so that > >> the fake internal ip addresses are never seen. Basically, I'm not sure this > >> will work with Novix and I'm touting for experiences of solving this > >> setup in general, i.e. connecting Netware networks to the internet across > >> a dial-up connection where you've only had a single ip address allocated. > > >I don't really understand this is a requirement. > > Demon Internet don't allow you to have multiple IP's routed through > the same link unless you buy an entire class C off them (yes, I know > that they are free, but you have to pay DIS to route it to you, etc, > etc), and I seem to remember that they only do Class C rental as part > of their leased line package now, although I could be mistaken (I > haven't looked at their price structure for a while now). Ahh, yes, the joys of US connectivity. A 128Kb link from Pipex is $60,000 !!! You've got no chance of getting a class C address unless you get a leased line. It's basically accepted here now that if you get a dial-up connection you'll be allocated nothing more than a single ip address. BT, the only telcom big enough to really service the internet here has a stranglehold on leased lines, a 64Kb leased line is $9000 to rent, that's just the physical cable. You have to pay an ISP for the internet service on top of that. -- Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, http://www.freebsd.org/~paul Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1222 457651 (home)