From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:03:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5098416A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:03:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F5743D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:03:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1542737wri for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:03:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uUxc1AqyT6+N9N/qjjK3j42IIQlINxB+7QdcTJNAOI8j2EqMZQfm/vpHRAzUcfE0gcMtBWcyktsepg4EAfnevaMamnKkW1VpXgLAU8lX3E9KtVaqc+fQwmJkY9ivEbc1zjok4VVyMVsBXH78QkFU5xrNqx9fr59hcRTUB/yF9y0= Received: by 10.65.253.11 with SMTP id f11mr3351738qbs; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.188.5 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:03:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54db43990601170703l6d4eca62j1b571ea7890f552a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:03:44 -0500 From: Bob Johnson To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey In-Reply-To: <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus , Don Hinton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: English only, please (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:03:48 -0000 On 1/15/06, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: > > Hi Greg: > > > > On Sunday 15 January 2006 16:28, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> On Saturday, 14 January 2006 at 20:02:02 +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wrot= e: > >>> vocativus wrote: > >>>> Witam! > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> Cze=B6=E6 vocativus, > >>> > >>> Nie wiem w czym tkwi problem, ale spr=F3buj zapyta=E6 na polskim foru= m > >>> system=F3w BSD: > >>> =09http://www.bsdguru.org/dyskusja/ > >> > >> As I said a couple of days ago, this is an English language list. In > >> a case like this, it would be appropriate to *not* copy the list on > >> the reply, despite the policy to the contrary. Why? So other people who speak Polish cannot search the archives to discover that there is a Polish language BSD support forum that they can go to? Are you really so elitist that you believe people who speak other languages are not entitled to information? > > > > Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? > > I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. > At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a > choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". -questions > is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the > latter. At I've been subscribed to this list for nine years, and for most of that time it was explicitly NOT an English-only list. It was stated policy, whenever anyone raised the issue, that postings in any language were welcome, with the caveat that you are far more likely to get help if you post in English. I don't understand why, for the past two years or so, there has been a campaign to convert this to an English-only list. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ > there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should > really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. > Anybody feel like having a go? > What purpose would it serve? Would it do anything other than reduce communication among the BSD community? This is, after all, the email support address that is published with FreeBSD. - Bob