From owner-freebsd-bugs Mon Jun 17 1: 0:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F9237B404 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g5H805x56704; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200206170800.g5H805x56704@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Bruce Evans Subject: Re: misc/39381: /dev/vga is created by rc.devfs - even when there is no ttyv0/vga Reply-To: Bruce Evans Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR misc/39381; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bruce Evans To: dirkx@covalent.net Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: misc/39381: /dev/vga is created by rc.devfs - even when there is no ttyv0/vga Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 17:55:25 +1000 (EST) On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 dirkx@covalent.net wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Bruce Evans wrote: > > This leaves about 10 bugs in the 2 (now 4) devfs-specific lines in > > this file: > > I am confused. Today (i.e. in 5-CURRENT) it says: > > # Setup DEVFS, ie permissions, links etc. > # > ln -fs /dev/ttyv0 /dev/vga > > > - rc files should not create anything unless configured to do so. They > > especially shouldn't delete correct links unconditionally. (The > > correct link is created by MAKEDEV; it is vga -> ttyv0, not vga -> > > /dev/ttyv0.) > > So you argue that the existing rc.devfs should not create the above at all > but leave it to MAKEDEV ? MAKEDEV just provides a template for the correct devices. (One reason I don't believe in devfs is that it doesn't even create devices with the same names and attributes after N years of development, starting with /dev itself not having the permissions specified in /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist.) > > - /dev/vga is compatibilty cruft for a 1993ish version of X (but I think > > current X's still use it because of their own compatibility cruft). It > > is an especially bad example to put in a file with only 1 example. > > - [... comments about style bugs deleted] > > > Or do you argue that the existing rc.devfs should be empty ? It should have commented out examples like most other rc files that don't have knobs in rc.conf, and it should have more than 1 example. If /dev/vga is actually non-optional, then it should be created by the driver and not by rc.devfs. Symlinks for devices should always be optional but this may be impractical for very old compatibility cruft like /dev/vga. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message