From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 12:19:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84B816A417 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rea-fbsd@codelabs.ru) Received: from pobox.codelabs.ru (pobox.codelabs.ru [144.206.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D7313C4A3 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rea-fbsd@codelabs.ru) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=one; d=codelabs.ru; h=Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:Sender:X-Spam-Status:Subject; b=J2rNu2BvTN3MBR2xqywsAgH122Ng3eqvWMkcTCfbpqNHRpGTeT5d0cXUX9dmLU6TlmMcY5cTbRSpefAKMJLov8S/vrG+DdbmWBDVa1zMJMzJzS9Cylkm3A4Hl+9ELCR5GzCSZgI8in2NkoLiAmKDNZQw9UXFbyE7GmOXtFsFyew=; Received: from void.codelabs.ru (void.codelabs.ru [144.206.177.25]) by pobox.codelabs.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) id 1Ifx0O-000OfZ-Ae; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:19:08 +0400 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:19:03 +0400 From: Eygene Ryabinkin To: Christian Baer Message-ID: <20071011121903.GE3943@void.codelabs.ru> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: rea-fbsd@codelabs.ru X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_40 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suggest renaming and extending the -CURRENT and -STABLE lines X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:19:09 -0000 Christian, good day. Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 03:52:14PM +0200, Christian Baer wrote: > If someone sees the result of RELENG_6 is called STABLE, he or she will > problably think, this is the line where bug fixes are added, security > problems fixed and the whole thing is meant for production systems. While > the first two things may be true, I would not suggest RELENG_6 for > production systems. Normally the -STABLE line works fine. But I *have* > times in the past where a driver was changes and suddenly the system > *didn't* work after a reboot or showed strange behaviour. But let us look at the issue from the user's side: where can he get RELENG_6? Only cvsup, CTM and monthly snapshots come into my mind. Regular CDs/ISOs will deliver RELENG_6_x. Users that are trying to use snapshots should realize that they're doing it at their own risk, but maybe documentation and FTP directory messages should tell them that shapshots can broke their installations. Seems like CTM users are the educated persons, so they won't need any clarifications. Examples of the CVSup supfiles are the good candidates for the short messages clarifying the nature of the -STABLE and referring to the relevant Handbook sections for more explanations. -- Eygene