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Date:      Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:33:21 -0600 (CST)
From:      Josh Tolbert <hemi@scoundrelz.net>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Sound frustration.
Message-ID:  <20030103023153.D8632-100000@view.scoundrelz.net>
In-Reply-To: <20030103012017.K6469-100000@view.scoundrelz.net>

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Hi again,

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Josh Tolbert wrote:

> Hi Terry,
>
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Terry Lambert wrote:
>
> > Josh Tolbert wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >         I have a PC164LX, 533MHz 21164A and 1G RAM. I'm planning on using
> > > the machine for a workstation and sound would be nice. I've been fighting
> > > with this machine sound-wise for about three days now, so I decided to ask
> > > for help.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that this box has an embedded ESS1888 or CS4231
> > chip, doesn't it?  Can't you use that instead of sticking in your
> > own sound card?  Back when I had a 164-based board it has the
> > Crystal Semiconductor sound chip.
> >
> > If not, you might want to try reading:
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6.2R/hardware-alpha.html
> >
> > ...specifically:
> >
> > 	>>> SET PCI_PARITY OFF
> >
> > There are known parity problems, that could interfere with
> > hardware trying to use the same bus, given that they aren't
> > cleared like you'd expect.
> >
> >
>
> 	Thanks for the suggestions. The PC164LX doesn't have integrated
> sound and PCI_PARITY was disabled a while ago. What sound cards use this
> magic ES1888 chip that everyone says works?
>

	On a whim, I started digging through my old ISA cards. I now have
a Creative Vibra16 working just fine without a kernel recompile (pcm and
sbc already compiled in). Unfortunately, it's an ISA card. Are there any
PCI sound cards that work? I'd really prefer to use a PCI card.

> > >         If I put any sound card on the 32-bit bus, I have serious problems
> > > with the IDE drives in the machine. The problems eventually cause the
> > > machine to panic when it tries to detect the drives and eventually times
> > > out.
> >
> > I don't know which bridge this thing has, but a lot of the old
> > PCI bridges used to be limited to 2 bus master DMA devices, and
> > attempts to install more than 2 ended up with bogus mastering
> > negotiations happening.
> >
> > Other than that, you can hope someone else says something... that's
> > all I can say about it, myself, sorry.
> >
> > -- Terry
> >
>
> Thanks again,
> Josh
>
>

Thanks again,
Josh


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