From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 6 20:18:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA317430; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 20:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.wasikowski.net (mail.wasikowski.net [IPv6:2001:6a0:1cb::b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 544401135; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 20:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.wasikowski.net (mail.wasikowski.net [IPv6:2001:6a0:1cb::b]) by mail.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D22127; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 21:18:45 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wasikowski.net Received: from mail.wasikowski.net ([IPv6:2001:6a0:1cb::b]) by mail.wasikowski.net (scan.wasikowski.net [IPv6:2001:6a0:1cb::b]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id WVRKxCBfiwdS; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 21:18:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.168.1] (89-71-136-148.dynamic.chello.pl [89.71.136.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9116B124; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 21:18:44 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=wasikowski.net; s=default; t=1391717924; bh=lIsKpWLGQQ7+bf3ETEspiSuGw1pqzJsTOjmrxe2OAYw=; h=Date:From:To:References:In-Reply-To; b=u6eLKq2FA8HspEmg5sRLj3QElyVGFtWUY4+827SXHenlGps+gbf4M8ekVB89VJidu fgUEEEw6zqYPO/Zdo/abn5m1k9PJPsOqh6nXaeGjMVsc+1RJt2pgzhLFcerjnYc4G6 blCc0clmUGW0diMobMj/fNQ6iRDuyZw7nDsKL4mfCpW9os7/Dlo53b/9OhBB2grkbQ cucWxsWEE3b6CWdZFElUMedFgca1tVFw668jgGOYCk0+VLT5g4JLK+2feRuMiVnu9E SOxwbNuxl7e8PHiarLRJiuo2rOCor8IELmDJ8OsYRaI1uiIUlPCIDDRy1Xwi5HUbU4 KSn2HMGlYMXjw== Message-ID: <52F3EE26.7040706@wasikowski.net> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 21:18:46 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?xYF1a2FzeiBXxIVzaWtvd3NraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marino@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] Time to bid farewell to the old pkg_ tools References: <201402052202.s15M2Lha059200@fire.js.berklix.net> <52F2C0C8.5010203@gmx.de> <52F32F7C.2030601@infracaninophile.co.uk> <52F38850.6080108@marino.st> In-Reply-To: <52F38850.6080108@marino.st> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 20:18:56 -0000 W dniu 2014-02-06 14:04, John Marino pisze: > On 2/6/2014 13:58, Rick Miller wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Daniel Nebdal wrote: >>> I suspect he meant "a certain version, and *not* newer" - sometimes >>> you might want to hold back a package. >> Correct. My wish is the functionality be extended further to mean "a >> certain version *or* newer", encompassing both features. Thus, allowing >> him to say "port-1.1", while I say "port-1.4 or newer" or even "port-1.0 or >> newer". > As an observer, all I can say is "Don't get your hopes up" on this one. > Hundreds of ports are bumped with majority dependency changes for a > reason. The tree is treated as an integrated entity, not 25,000 > interchangeable parts. > > It would take major technology shift, something closer to what PC-BSD's > pbi things do/did. Ports itself isn't geared for this. Maybe some kind > of package archive could be used though, if "pkg" solvers could be made > to handle such requests. Sounds like an extremely difficult request to > me though. Gentoo's portage has this capability and it works quite well. I'd love to see it in FreeBSD. -- best regards, Lukasz Wasikowski