From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 28 18:14:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BE737B401; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ACA43F43; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:14:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (athlon.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.3]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0T2E6MW067171; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:14:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0T2E6Km001254; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:14:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0T2E6Zg001253; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:14:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:14:06 -0800 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Juli Mallett Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to teach config(8) about "platforms". Message-ID: <20030129021406.GD1016@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20030128.233856.71130419.nyan@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20030128120830.A81856@FreeBSD.org> <20030128225335.GB537@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030128151749.A831@FreeBSD.org> <20030128235528.GA844@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030128160936.A4252@FreeBSD.org> <20030129004006.GA945@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030128164955.A7369@FreeBSD.org> <20030129013537.GB1016@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030128174259.A10304@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030128174259.A10304@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 05:42:59PM -0800, Juli Mallett wrote: > * De: Marcel Moolenaar [ Data: 2003-01-28 ] > [ Subjecte: Re: Patch to teach config(8) about "platforms". ] > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 04:49:55PM -0800, Juli Mallett wrote: > > > > > > > So, given that we have MACHINE_ARCH and MACHINE already to our > > > > disposal, I don't get the feeling that we are in need to add > > > > something else because the problem space appears 2D, not 3D. > > > > > > > > Right? > > > > > > That's what I'm trying to do, in a clean way. See my "short version" > > > message, if you like. > > > > Ok. Now that we've established that the "platform" keyword is not > > needed, is there any meaning we attach to MACHINE that conflicts > > with the meaning it must have in order to solve the mips/powerpc > > problem? Or do we not attach a certain meaning to MACHINE that we > > should attach to it? > > No, we have not established that. *sigh* Is the problem space 2D or 3D? > We attach lots of meaning to MACHINE. You keep missing that that > is NOT the same as the "machine" keyword. And you keep missing that I don't assume that it cannot be made the same. That's why I ask about meaning and that's why I want things to be discussed on an abstract level. > It is, however, the same > as the "platform" keyword. You also fail to see that the consequence of adding platform is beyond the mere recognition of the keyword. Only when the problem space is 3D, do you need to add a new entity for sure. If the problem space is 2D, you may be able to solve it with the existing knobs. Yes, this may mean that you may have to stop using it for whatever purpose (right or wrong) it's used now. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message