From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 22:32:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84094106564A for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-current-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D00A8FC08 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16701 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2011 22:05:39 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Jan 2011 22:05:39 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A19C050825; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:05:38 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Boris Kochergin References: <4D2CC06A.8080408@acm.poly.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:05:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4D2CC06A.8080408@acm.poly.edu> (Boris Kochergin's message of "Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:41:14 -0500") Message-ID: <444o9fhz9p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: David DEMELIER , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why panic(9) ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:32:19 -0000 [Replies redirected.] Boris Kochergin writes: > All modern operating systems? Maybe some niche ones, like the ones > that run on Mars rovers, have made progress towards formal > verification and are believed not to crash given correctly-functioning > hardware. The Mars rovers run on VxWorks. Which is a system I like, but it isn't anything like formally verifiable. And it certainly does the equivalent of FreeBSD panic() under some circumstances.