From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 4 02:34:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0688225 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 02:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22b.google.com (mail-we0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4256A74B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 02:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id k11so45937231wes.2 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:33:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=yZZxHxCfOkTCOpElRqZUChsBpLXP7Iu7E5VBOplj/sw=; b=Ats48v8YDL1RB4NBaiby5bfTifCkgDeMtZ3CnLGR2LmjXHkiZwz8fGRB53XbAurCqo o9e+5xjcP7Lsjgis9L+I95MiDjNHzeoPpkZy9sjQ/sQrNRwD6gmzUBmc/Tk8JuRkgxMO QI5y6fPeD33wWgAb6C6Wedonv0CPpRW5mwxSkiG4PEEHlHZbWPwg/RdSKDndeXrOc41+ +lyvatgWhe2Z352lLVgeMTzt/rTulpZ+GeWxbkcry1uAoIoyHziX4esYCbjt2DRzHskc z5VypTLY8ODL8kBupLoeU1kUKQaP+Q3Fza7ihXq1No6xcolFlNTqLia7AZJ8/DhkhrNt IF/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.103.102 with SMTP id fv6mr773677wib.80.1423017238553; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.93.143 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:33:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 21:33:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: reintro and pkgng aghastness From: Jacob Ritorto To: zenxyzzy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 02:34:00 -0000 hah, awesome. My 360 could reach mind-smashing speeds of, like, 396 or something D: Hmm, those 370-3799s you mentioned are $16 on ebay atm... Tempted.. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:42 PM, zenxyzzy wrote: > > https://web.archive.org/web/20150204014108/http://www.ezplanet.net/xwiki/= bin/view/KnowledgeBase/SunUltra5Overclocking > > --curt > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:29 PM, zenxyzzy wrote: > >> it also runs the 440 mhz ultrasparc. the specs say 400 is the limit, bu= t >> hey, 10% more cpu is there, too. just don't overclock it - I did fry on= e >> 440 mhz cpu that way. >> >> --curt >> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Torsten Kirschner < >> torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> No, like he wrote, the only reason why the U5 was "limited" to 512 MB >>> was that the tall modules wouldn't fit, because the space was occupied = by >>> the floppy drive. >>> Low sticks fit nicely under it. There are low profile sticks with 256 M= B >>> each. >>> The U5 runs 1GB RAM exactly like an U10. >>> >>> Den onsdag 4. februar 2015 skrev Jacob Ritorto >>> f=C3=B8lgende: >>> >>> really, you found a way to get to 1G? I thought only 512 was possible >>>> even >>>> with the weird tall sticks? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:53 PM, zenxyzzy wrote: >>>> >>>> > I've also had luck putting the tall memory modules in an ultra 5, >>>> bumping >>>> > it to 1G ram. this did take me removing the (quite useless) floppy >>>> drive. >>>> > later, I got some X7039A's, which are low-profile versions. then I >>>> got >>>> > room to put another 3.5 inch drive in. >>>> > >>>> > --curt >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jacob Ritorto < >>>> jacob.ritorto@gmail.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> hmm, got the 2013 version on CD. It made it pretty far along but >>>> crashed >>>> >> and burned whilst loading the miniroot, or whatever they call it, t= o >>>> >> ramdisk. Memory's just too darn small. >>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:11 AM, zenxyzzy >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> I've had luck putting a sata to scsi adaptor on a DVD. should be >>>> able >>>> >>> to boot that. also, there's plenty of IDE dvd's around. you'd >>>> have to >>>> >>> open the ultra 5 up, though :-> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> --curt >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Jacob Ritorto < >>>> jacob.ritorto@gmail.com> >>>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> Was just about to do that - I have it running on my T1000. But >>>> >>>> Martin's open source politics scared me a little a few months ago >>>> - he >>>> >>>> pulled everything OpenSXCE-related from the Internet and there wa= s >>>> no >>>> >>>> recourse for the OpenSXCE user community. Maybe it's worth >>>> another go now >>>> >>>> that that appears to be sorted out. Unfortunately there's no way >>>> for me to >>>> >>>> load the 2014 bits on my Ultra5 as it's a dvd-only release :\ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> thx >>>> >>>> jake >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:41 PM, zenxyzzy >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> There's another option that maybe you shouldn't ignore. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> OpenSxce. it's illumos plus a lot of hackery minus a lot of >>>> stupidity >>>> >>>>> for Sparc. I run it happily on my Sun Blade 1000. modern ZFS a= nd >>>> >>>>> everything. >>>> >>>>> XVR-1000 support. root on SSD. fan control support - this >>>> clinched >>>> >>>>> it for me. neither linux or freebsd can turn the freaking fan >>>> off or down. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> plus source. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> plus, runs solaris 11 binaries from that "O"ther company. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> get it from opensxce.org >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> --curt >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Jacob Ritorto < >>>> jacob.ritorto@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>> >>>>>> I'd been away from FreeBSD for fifteen years, but I'm back an= d >>>> I'm >>>> >>>>>> pleased to announce that I'm using a computer that's from aroun= d >>>> the >>>> >>>>>> time I >>>> >>>>>> left FreeBSD :) It's a nice little Sun Ultra 5. Bone stock; >>>> doesn't >>>> >>>>>> even >>>> >>>>>> look like the case has ever been open. I recently had to stop >>>> using >>>> >>>>>> Solaris >>>> >>>>>> because they're became evil and Illumos because they're kind of >>>> not >>>> >>>>>> supporting this hardware anymore. I tried OpenBSD, but its >>>> >>>>>> applications >>>> >>>>>> just crashed. So here I pragmatically am. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> I like FreeBSD. I didn't leave out of disgust or anything; >>>> mostly >>>> >>>>>> just >>>> >>>>>> employment being all-Sun years ago. So it's cool revisiting it >>>> and >>>> >>>>>> seeing >>>> >>>>>> all the changes and all the stayed-the-sames. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> I'm pretty exited about the new FreeBSD pkgng system. I had >>>> the >>>> >>>>>> extreme >>>> >>>>>> pleasure of using it whilst installing my SPARC last night >>>> (which, >>>> >>>>>> unfortunately, took from mid evening until around 4:30 in the >>>> >>>>>> morning. (I >>>> >>>>>> didn't have any cds or floppies at my disposal, so I instead >>>> built the >>>> >>>>>> network / diskless system installl on a virtualbox vm on my Mac >>>> and >>>> >>>>>> installed FreeBSD to the SPARC from there). Good old >>>> >>>>>> rarp/boopt/tftp/nfs! >>>> >>>>>> Reminded me of Sun Jumpstart! I was really pleased that this >>>> way of >>>> >>>>>> doing >>>> >>>>>> things still works on FreeBSD Truly a slick and smart design. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> But is it true that I can't actually use pkgng on my real >>>> computer >>>> >>>>>> because It's not a PC? >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> I've been looking around the Internet for some hours, now, to >>>> no >>>> >>>>>> avail. >>>> >>>>>> Are there seriously *no* package repos for SPARC? >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> If that's the case, I'd like to help remedy it. I've read >>>> around >>>> >>>>>> on how >>>> >>>>>> to contribute, but it seems none of what's out there pertains t= o >>>> >>>>>> pkgng for >>>> >>>>>> sparc. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Please let me know if I'm understanding the situation right >>>> and how >>>> >>>>>> I can >>>> >>>>>> help, if help is wanted. I have a lot of SPARCs and they need = a >>>> >>>>>> trustworthy operating system with software package system that >>>> >>>>>> doesn't have >>>> >>>>>> to be manually-wrought. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> "Oh, wow, it just finished its five-plus-hour ports build of >>>> freaking >>>> >>>>>> tmux!" >>>> >>>>>> jake >>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>>>> freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 >>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>>> >>>>>> freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>>> freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>> >> >