From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 00:08:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C122D16A427 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:08:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from security@jim-liesl.org) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C1C43DCE for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:07:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from security@jim-liesl.org) Received: from daemon.jim-liesl.org ([70.33.46.68]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051209000741.DUJ28251.mta13.adelphia.net@daemon.jim-liesl.org> for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:07:41 -0500 Received: from daemon.jim-liesl.org (localhost.clspco.adelphia.net [127.0.0.1]) by daemon.jim-liesl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E036610C for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:10:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (daemon.clspco.adelphia.net [192.168.1.15]) by daemon.jim-liesl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C01610A for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:10:50 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4398CA29.3070602@jim-liesl.org> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:04:57 -0700 From: secmgr User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20051208001857.68ac4fef.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20051208133100.GC912@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20051208194915.GC948@unixpages.org> In-Reply-To: <20051208194915.GC948@unixpages.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 as storage server with raid5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:08:15 -0000 Christian Brueffer wrote: >>On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 12:18:57AM +0100, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >> >> >>In short, don't write gvinum off just yet. Documentation is around the >>corner (as a result of a SoC project). >> >> > >Actually gvinum(8) has been committed to CURRENT and RELENG_6 a couple >of days ago. > >- Christian > > Whatever you do, don't complain about it on this list, or you'll just be told that if you really wanted raid, you should be running SCSI disks and a raid adapter. They may allow that 3ware does ok, but no ATA drive should ever be relied on and even s/w raid on scsi is only for ignorant lusers who are too cheap to do the "right thing". Those who think I run to hyperbole need only visit the archives. One can only hope that gvinum actually works in 6 vs the buggy and incomplete alpha code that shipped in 5.x. Having a man page is nice, but I'd rather have a raid 5 set that didn't panic the system and corrupt the set when it lost a drive (and this with modern scsi drives and adapter). I'd strongly suggest anyone using GEOM raid to do some fault insertion testing of their setup prior to actually relying on it. jim