From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 1 22:15:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425AD16A41B for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:15:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C607D13C447 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-20-82.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.20.82]) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lB1MFZNV025844 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:15:35 +1100 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB1MFYDD008441; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:15:34 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id lB1MFYh7008440; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:15:34 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:15:34 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20071201221533.GU50167@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20071201204245.GA57218@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <4751CDB6.7040505@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i7KxW38SoMauyveo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4751CDB6.7040505@gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: duration of the ports freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 22:15:38 -0000 --i7KxW38SoMauyveo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 04:10:14PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >This is due to thinking of the port system as one would of as say >make(1) namely a multistage transaction vs. one big atomic >transaction. Doing first makes each port responible for most it's >knowledge and thus open to inconsistencies and the other makes so the >port is nothing but a node in a graph with the edges holding most of >the knowledge instead of the nodes. You continue to complain that the current dependency system is broken but you have yet to provide an alternative. >If there was a universal way of handling stuff as recommended in >Miller97 and most decent algorithm books. You also regularly references to Aegis - again with no explanation as to what problem Aegis would solve and how it would solve it. I recall hearing Peter Miller present his paper at AUUG'97 and I know I was interested enough at the time to install and experiment with Aegis but (for reasons I don't recall any longer), I have since reverted to make. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --i7KxW38SoMauyveo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHUd0F/opHv/APuIcRAoAlAKCmT98WP7cdB3d5iffQJNo3X1zj1QCePwkh 2aUVXgomTUjMQ9TRCabT6BI= =2MgS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i7KxW38SoMauyveo--