From owner-cvs-all Tue Feb 26 12: 0:29 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EAE37B400; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020226200019.OSMR1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:00:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA95318; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:57:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:57:56 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: dillon@apollo.backplane.com, jake@locore.ca, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, core@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/i386 exception.s genassym.c machdep.c mp_machdep.c mpapic.c swtch.s vm_machdep.c src/sys/i386/include cpufunc.h pcb.h src/sys/i386/isa apic_vector.s clock.c icu_vector.s intr_machdep.c intr_machdep.h npx.c src/sys/kern ... In-Reply-To: <20020226.124843.125707643.imp@village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG abuse? what abuse. I think MAtt can be asked to "back it out and hold it for a few days. But I also think that there needs to be soemwher for him to apeal to. Until there is somewhere for him to apeal to it is pointless for him to back it out. Backing out assumes that there is a conflict resolution system. Presently there is none. How about YOU suggest that when it is backed out, core will make a decision as to whether his work deserves to be committed and That JHB be asked to "put up or shut up". John is doing good work but as long as he uses P4, this is going to keep happenning. Stop screaming at the symptom and fix the problem! On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: > Julian Elischer writes: > : I think the probelm is that there is a rule that says that > : disputed code should be backed out but ther eis no rule that > : gives an avenue of appeal whjen one committer is acting as a 'dog in teh > : manger' and just blocking everything, and requiring it to be held or > : reverted. > : > : JHB has had a 8 months to check in his stuff (hey the preemtion stuff was > : done in June) and since then it's only effect on the project has been to > : stiffle and stop all other development in the area. > : > : I blame P4 for this in part. > : HE thinks he is being transparent to the rest of the community whereas he > : has a total viewing public of about 4. > : > : Consider this a test case. > : Core is appealled to. The blocking action of JHB's (good) work is doing > : more damage to the project than good. We need to be able to proceed > : without waiting for him... > > None of that excuses the extreme abuse that Matt has done. I think > you are over-stating things here. > > Warner > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message