From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 22:42:02 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBBE143C6F0 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C1587F9E for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BF81484F; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x04MfwGJ079532 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:41:58 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x04Mfw5H079531; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:41:58 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Cy Schubert cc: Wojciech Puchar , Enji Cooper , Igor Mozolevsky , Hackers freeBSD Subject: Re: Strategic Thinking (was: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components) In-reply-to: <201901042217.x04MHWaE046238@slippy.cwsent.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <201901042217.x04MHWaE046238@slippy.cwsent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <79529.1546641718.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:41:58 +0000 Message-ID: <79530.1546641718@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D2C1587F9E X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.94 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.75)[0.755,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.03)[0.031,0]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: phk.freebsd.dk]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.76)[0.762,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; IP_SCORE(0.10)[asn: 1835(0.51), country: EU(-0.00)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:42:02 -0000 -------- In message <201901042217.x04MHWaE046238@slippy.cwsent.com>, Cy Schubert wr= ites: >In message <79361.1546639367@critter.freebsd.dk>, "Poul-Henning Kamp" = >writes: >That's exactly my point. What subset of things can and should we focus on= ? Whatever you as a contributor needs and enjoys. >Adding or replacing a language or languages in base should be = >consistent with the long-term direction of The Project. Forget adding new botique languages to base: That's not happening any time soon, if ever, for all the reasons already enumerated. Until somebody comes up with an AbsolutelyMustHaveBeforePackagesCanBeInstalled program written in $Language, $LanguageCompiler stays in ports where it belongs. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .