From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 3 11:17:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E604C37B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from cisco.com (sword.cisco.com [161.44.208.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266A943E42 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:17:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjt@cisco.com) Received: from sjt-u10.cisco.com (sjt-u10.cisco.com [10.85.30.63]) by cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21950; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (sjt@localhost) by sjt-u10.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/CISCO.WS.1.2) id OAA28359; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:17:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:17:26 -0500 From: Steve Tremblett To: Lee Nelson Cc: JT32255@aol.com, Paul Everlund , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why Use a Daemon as a Symbol since it alienates many? Message-ID: <20021103141726.B27523@sjt-u10.cisco.com> References: <3DC55F74.4000403@cs.umu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jld123@pobox.com on Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 02:16:41PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please don't feed the troll :) +---- Lee Nelson wrote: | JT32255 has a point. | | It's clear that we're not going to change how people | react to the daemon logo. So, if advocacy is a goal, | it makes sense to drop the daemon and come up with | something more palatable to the general public. | | But a larger audience for FreeBSD may actually | detract from its usefulness. FreeBSD currently does | not suffer from the "kitchen sink" problem that Linux | has with its kerrnel. And as a result we don't have | kernel patches for critical bugs every couple of weeks. | | Also, bringing FreeBSD to the masses would divert | effort away from it's current goals of stability and | correctness. Just look at what Red Hat and Mandrake | have done to Linux. | | -Lee | | 11/3/02 12:40:04 PM, Paul Everlund wrote: | | >JT32255@aol.com wrote: | >> The traditional devil horns derive from goats, which if you have ever been | >> around goats, seen how they can climb, eat all vegetation in sight, climb | >> trees, get on roofs, etc., how kids gambol, is understandable. But it | >> alienates so many. But as it alienates so many Christians, Jews and Muslims | >> as a little Satan symbol, really limits the widespread use, public and tax | >> paid support and availability of BSD. A better symbol might be the statue of | >> liberty, or the creator of the first Library, Aristotle. The Penguin symbol | >> is LINUX' best advantage over BSD, not to mention all the public hostility | >> towards Berkley. | > | >Please read http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html. | > | >And if the little cute daemon alienates Christians, Jews, Muslims or | >anyone else, my personal opinion is that they should grow up. | > | >Take care and I whish you a nice day! | > | >Best regards, | >Paul | > | > | > | >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message | > | > | | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message | +---end quoted text--- -- Steve Tremblett Cisco Systems To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message