From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 30 05:37:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9016C106566B; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leccine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4708FC1B; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1555367fxm.36 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:37:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=m4+GpdMAIZZ/4I7SzvZtf97c8WhOzg9rABEqqIYvptU=; b=CmgTLryOgQfogo8Jvc/QQfVWH1V0joaKMsQaCUBPd7vth5yDS/ptiSRVvx74jmJul1 SU2IMPYmb5EMFeBJv/gtaZobKQj6dRNWtsvozvDiZGpyl2vvz3TVNgcME+u6b9IhDPaT mCH4QFKoH5W/QI4idLsjlQLNeOtJupBgqtqgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=TgMhpLmW8Fvx0/WNU2BiKjDDCPGkEXTci+LBpvzFCmYVEwhSXFwqT3K9O57bo7H/Jh eLVQDYrhe1dn/X0p21s+m2Eag0OCWotkEmtDU1V/UYLZHpTfs58XFPDqVKcVkgGBObGi rSIxtoddsWKTQKhgrsio31sCE4qnJTGI2omvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.209 with SMTP id p17mr5034656bkw.104.1254289067676; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:37:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <689d500ec8c95542a53440b8a23ae773@mail.liquidphlux.com> <458792029.144491254249841202.JavaMail.root@shee.earlham.edu> <3bbf2fe10909291209h3c2b1c57se68e6030c2a5a044@mail.gmail.com> <4AC2968C.6020206@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:37:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?SXN0duFu?= To: Kip Macy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Attilio Rao , "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Randy Schultz Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss... X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:37:49 -0000 but if we measure the performance based on feelings we could advertise freebsd: "feels better" do not forget the marketing value :)) On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Kip Macy wrote: > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 4:21 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> Well, since FreeBSD 8.0 started, I realized on several boxes (doens't >> matter whether SMP or UP, 2 GB or 8 GB or 16 GB) massive performance >> issues when compiling, even on a 8-core box. This is not 'measured' in >> > > hard numbers, it is the 'feeling' since we swapped to 8.0, but still >> crunching (oh, we need a lot of I/O performance in those number >> crunching environments) and even simple desktop, Linux, mostly Ubuntu >> and RedHat, outperforms FreeBSD. >> > > > We certainly do periodically have performance issues, but it isn't > realistic to expect us to tune for how it "feels" to you. Performance on > concrete workloads would contribute a great deal more to the discussion. > > > -Kip > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-performance-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- the sun shines for all