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Date:      Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:11:46 -0500 (CDT)
From:      "Paul T. Root" <proot@horton.iaces.com>
To:        Diana.Roman@bglobal.com (Roman, Diana BGI SF)
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FW: hmmm...
Message-ID:  <199804071811.NAA06303@horton.iaces.com>
In-Reply-To: <BFBAAB897D7AD111B48200805F31B0A561A99D@sf-exch4.wfnia.com> from "Roman, Diana BGI SF" at "Apr 7, 98 10:25:23 am"

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In a previous message, Roman, Diana BGI SF said:
> Hi there. I wrote yesterday with some problems I was having in the
> install process, and I'm not giving my own partition sizes, I'm choosing
> A for it to automatically partition itself, as suggested below.  
> 
> I think I'm doing three separate things wrong:
> 1. In the full screen visual kernel configuration, I don't think I'm
> getting it to recognize my modem correctly. I have a 486 laptop with an
> IBM PCMCIA credit card adaptor modem. I delete all the conflicting
> devices, and add ze0 (the IBM/National Semiconductor PCMCIA Ethernet
> Adaptor) from the bottom list, and save changes. Then I get a screen
> which states whether the devices are found or not, but it scrolls past
> too quickly for me to see if it says 'ze0 - device not found' or
> something like that. Am I doing this correctly? 

The ze0 is ethernet driver not modem.  

> 2. In the FreeBSD disklabel editor, after I hit 'A' for an automatic
> partition (I have no OS on this computer currently and want to devote
> the entire hard drive to BSD) and it prompts me for a 'mount point for
> the partition' I'm not sure what to enter here. I selected the option
> which made it possible to add additional OS's in the future; I don't
> know if that has something to do with it - but the partition it creates
> for BSD uses up the majority of the space, but there is a second 'chunk'
> left (another partition?) with a tiny bit of memory in it. What should I
> enter for the mount point? 

Your description is of fdisk not disklabel. Or a combination of the two.
For fdisk, when you take then entire disk for FreeBSD, you get asked 
whether or not to be dangerously dedicated or remain compatible. Remaining
compatible allows other OS's (on another disk) to see what the partitionj
is. Remaining compatible also helps when you have geometry problems with 
the disk. For instance, I was able to install FreeBSD on the entire disk
of a Syquest SyJet Removable SCSI drive, by staying compatible but not
dangerously dedicated. The little space at the end is used for bios or
MBR or something.

I'm pretty certain (though I haven't tried just now) that when disklabel
is told to do automatic, it puts the mount points in by itself. As a guide
you need a minimum of 2 partitions / and swap. / goes in a and swap goes
in b. The c partition is the entire disk, don't touch it. From there, you
might want a /usr partition (I think FreeBSD generally uses f for this, it
doesn't really matter). I like to have a /var and put it on e. You might
also want a /home or a /usr/local or a /usr/X11R6. It's pretty much all
personal preference.  Many people do just the 2 partition / and swap. That's
fine, especially since backup tapes can hold multiple giga-bytes now. I used
to do the just / partition, but when you have a disk problem, your whole 
disk is a problem, not just one section. 



> 3. When I try to install the developer kernel from the FTP site, I run
> into modem probs again. I get a message, "PPP command started on VTY3
> blah blah", so I hit Alt-F3 and get the prompt, "ppp ON> Warning: Can't
> create /var/run/tun0.pid: No such file or directory." So I type "term"
> and it prompts me "Warning: Can't create /var/run/cuaa0.if: No such file
> or directory./Enter to terminal mode./Type '~?' for help." at which
> point I assume I would type "ATDT(my ISP's phone number), but the
> keyboard has frozen up and I have to soft reboot the machine. : ( Why
> does this happen and how do I avoid it? 

You need to set what port your modem is on before going into terminal 
mode. (And the machine needs to see the modem port).

> Help!! What am I doing wrong? : ( This is frusterating. 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Diana Roman [SMTP:dcr10@worldnet.att.net]
> > Sent:	Tuesday, April 07, 1998 7:23 AM
> > To:	diana.roman@bglobal.com
> > Subject:	Fw: hmmm...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----------
> > > From: Marco A. Barbosa S. <mbarbosa@fciencias.ens.uabc.mx>
> > > To: dcr10@worldnet.att.net
> > > Subject: hmmm...
> > > Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 6:57 PM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 	when you partition your disk...
> > > 	cant you give it a choice maybe.. another a, to 
> > > 	make it hmmm... automatically partition the disk for you
> > > 	? because... if you give your own partition sizes, you 
> > > 	probably are going to have problems losing a tiny bit of
> > > 	space... 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > 
> > > 				*************************************
> > > 				* Marco Antonio Barbosa Santoyo     *
> > > 				* Facultad de Ciencias, U.A.B.C.    * 
> > > 				* Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico *
> > > 				*************************************
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