From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 17 13:42:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61CD1065674 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFF8B8FC1F for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13934 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jun 2010 13:42:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Jun 2010 13:42:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Message-ID:Date:Disposition-Notification-To:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=lRyzDh3lZTKq5ml/sIG22VV5qiBOLinF5fxaMx2KbIf1AEb90LtNpZO5pesK9Bp1KdVEa75+FAPDmWHrHrHFSjewDuAhOepm3R+U8ryRPymtdM18qOa3PQdB38mFFm9P; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPFMQ-0001tY-13 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:42:26 -0600 Received: from 206.74.86.236 ([206.74.86.236]) by mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:42:25 -0600 Message-ID: <20100617074225.8pcs9r9ou8gk04o8@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:42:25 -0600 From: Programmer in Training To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100615211740.GA50967@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100615154956.cfz6ip454w8gcco4@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100617081156.8441dc67.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100617035140.x8bpf02348g4o8ok@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4C1A045F.6020103@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <4C1A045F.6020103@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: concerning flash under freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:42:27 -0000 Quoting Chris Whitehouse : > Programmer in Training wrote: >> Quoting Polytropon : >> >>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:49:56 -0600, Programmer in Training =20 >>> wrote: >> That's a no-go, I have it on good authority that h.264 was chosen =20 >> over Theora. That along with mpeg-la having put out a press release =20 >> saying it won't charge royalties for "free" uses of some of it's =20 >> patents several months ago[0], while I would love for Theora to =20 >> have won out as the standard, once again corporate interest (this =20 >> time a big push from Apple, from what I understand) has won out. > > And Mozilla won't use H264. Also add into the mix that Google has just > bought VP8 and open sourced it. Mozilla supports VP8 but Apple is > already dissing it: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/may/20/apple-steve-jobs-vp8= -patent > > So I think we have a very long way to go before we can stop using flash > for web based video. Entirely my point. > (According to wikipedia Theora is a fork of VP3 which the developer On2 > released some time ago. VP6 made into macromedia flash codec. So On2's > codecs have a long history of video on the web.) That would seem to be supported by the Theora website[0]. >> won't support it. But that's all irregardless to the OPs question =20 >> of bugginess on FreeBSD. If the Linux emulation isn't enough and =20 >> there is no option but to switch to an entirely different platform, =20 >> why even provide such an option? Linux emulation takes up a lot of =20 >> resources (space wise on the drive). > > Flash video works absolutely fine here and there is a lot of great > content and interesting and entertaining material out there. I'm really > grateful to the FreeBSD developers for getting it working so well :) > > FreeBSD muji2.config 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Mar > 24 11:51:43 GMT 2010 root@muji2.config:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > i386 > firefox-3.5.8,1 > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r42 > flashblock 1.5.13 # This may be a critical feature of a successful > flash intallation. Aside from npviewer not killing itself on exit and some sync issues, =20 I've not had any problems, either. The need for Linux emulation, =20 though, still stinks (mostly from a disk space pov). [0]: http://www.theora.org/faq/#VP3 --=20 Yours in Christ, PIT All original content (C) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed.