From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 17 04:09:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E07341871 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 04:09:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wesley.p@pobox.com) Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com (pb-smtp1.pobox.com [64.147.108.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49ms5w5x4xz4DhS for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 04:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wesley.p@pobox.com) Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB186DFBE for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 00:09:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wesley.p@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=mime-version :references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; s=sasl; bh=+0/RlEFuWSskvzBFbxRngTfh/ro=; b=vAyS5e RPp65dZF9YORJxbn0wZfJJuLIzK5bIvzwuOfall5R2F31bdcirC7UX4aKQkKiql0 WS5sG/aWKMwlZqD8zEOA2ScA+vohxUae2lMDHsgitjN08++JRbBI+oCrL5mh3Pro M3w1DCJczE+lacsWlVR8Tjazuqpbgt48b4JZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=mime-version :references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=iN8PhCX5gxYSDfNKgiKVKgbrpMav4RDy HILwUvOmt059R5EOaeKTKfjfJNHn+X/FCtlLNKAG1MZsUgG8zmLYZXIS4xWJpAmG lshkuTx8yOAWSbxEHNEwU6pFS89I2KZCWRRvn+vnjWtzZGOOgr1hmftBd8bgu9WC svzS3l57GQY= Received: from pb-smtp1.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D376DFBC for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 00:09:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wesley.p@pobox.com) Received: from mail-il1-f181.google.com (unknown [209.85.166.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6ED46DFBA for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 00:09:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wesley.p@pobox.com) Received: by mail-il1-f181.google.com with SMTP id a13so857520ilh.3 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:09:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532lRKU9iYbnbPce7d/ChhkujgzxaH87FdAFlEkTyYhF+Coaodjz sS3uAyogskftUFZ5OaVbRXHXJI/fYtXxoGGkE3U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzqT2fmqfEXT+iiCuR0a+Pn8vBTt+BqBj/h3ztB0IgvuqfwEgLMzCfI+kS70r745vHLQXkp04QxeF6+RcRsCeE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:13f2:: with SMTP id w18mr6710532ilj.265.1592366979124; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:09:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3a48ab1ab198c330400be3e942f921f2cd3c3e11.camel@tom.com> In-Reply-To: <3a48ab1ab198c330400be3e942f921f2cd3c3e11.camel@tom.com> From: Wesley Peng Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 12:09:27 +0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does FreeBSD not use the Linux kernel? To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 5D461762-B050-11EA-A7BA-C28CBED8090B-60148086!pb-smtp1.pobox.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49ms5w5x4xz4DhS X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b=vAyS5e R; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=pobox.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wesley.p@pobox.com designates 64.147.108.70 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wesley.p@pobox.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.57 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pobox.com:s=sasl]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[pobox.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.147.108.0/24]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.01)[-1.014]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.88)[-0.880]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pobox.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[pobox.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.57)[-0.573]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:64.147.108.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[64.147.108.70:from] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 04:09:42 -0000 That sounds strange, GNU tools + kernel = Un*x If kernel was replaced to Linux, the new product is another form of Linux, nothing related to BSD. Regards On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:33 AM kindu smith wrote: > Why does FreeBSD not use the Linux kernel? The structure of FreeBSD is > very good, such as the startup and directory structure, and the user > island program. The only shortcoming is poor hardware support. This is > mainly due to the lack of drivers provided by the kernel. The Linux > kernel is assisted by developers around the world. Changing to the > Linux kernel can make up for this shortcoming. For the system > architecture, package management pkg, and user island programs can > still use the original FreeBSD. > > Among the unix-like systems, the most popular except macos is ubuntu. > This does not mean that ubuntu is good enough. It is still very poor > compared to archlinux and other distros. But it is still the most > popular because it takes a road from users, servers, to the cloud. That > is to first increase the user's utilization rate, then increase the > popularity, and then seek the popularity of the server and cloud > fields. > > I think the reason why FreeBSD has reduced the number of users is > because it does not take care of the experience of ordinary users, and > it takes the opposite path from a server, cloud to users. Positioning > such an excellent operating system as just server usage has greatly > reduced its popularity. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >