From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 17:44:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED11616A401 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE3A13C4AD for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3AHBONG065757; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:11:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:03:40 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200704051719.l35HJ2ZW018555@lurza.secnetix.de> <200704061227.11036.danny@ricin.com> <4616686C.8000603@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4616686C.8000603@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704101303.40902.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:11:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/3064/Tue Apr 10 12:25:23 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Danny Pansters Subject: Re: what can i do with a 486? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:44:30 -0000 On Friday 06 April 2007 11:34, deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > Danny Pansters wrote: > > Might still be too little (or defect!) RAM. One other idea might be to add isa > > (you have pci and eisa), an old (isa-based?) mobo may need some crufty > > plug-n-pray stuff -- possibly even to get to the HD controller, I'm not sure. > > It was running windoze3.1 normally. I doubt about defective RAM. > > PCI is definitely unneeded, I only had it there to allow it to boot on a new > comp. But as I've seen it, it would boot without it: with the message 'loading > required module pci'. I don't know if it's an EISA or ISA or whatever (google > images show this and that..), so now I have 'device eisa' and 'isa'. One change in 5.x and later is that we now load the kernel at 4MB phyiscal address rather than 1MB to work around an issue on Pentium 4's with PSE. If you can find a way to change the kernel to load at 1MB again that would probably help a lot. > >> Oh and.. should I be using 5.1 over 6.2? > > > > 5 is dead. You pretty much must use 6 I think. > > floating point emulation... What about it? Is that required? The old proc doesnt > support it. It was removed since 5.3, I've heard... A 486sx will need it, a 486dx will not. > What about apic? 486's in general don't have APICs, and we don't support the special ones 486's use anyway, so axe it. -- John Baldwin