Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:05:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Noriyuki Soda <soda@sra.co.jp> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, dfr@nlsystems.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c Message-ID: <199905130005.UAA06806@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <199905122317.IAA00977@srapc342.sra.co.jp> References: <199905120926.SAA19601@srapc342.sra.co.jp> <66043.926546011@zippy.cdrom.com> <199905122317.IAA00977@srapc342.sra.co.jp>
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<<On Thu, 13 May 1999 08:17:52 +0900 (JST), Noriyuki Soda <soda@sra.co.jp> said: > Have you ever asked to newconfig people? > No, no one of core members who takes charge of kernel part contacted > to newconfig people, ever. It's your responsibility to communicate with us, not the other way around. The only way for your views to be even considered is for you to make them known BEFORE the die is cast. I can't speak for any of the other developers, but I personally get 200-400 messages a day, and unless you speak up and -- most importantly -- inform everyone REGULARLY of the progess you make, your views will not be considered. > Note that there are core members who supports new-bus, everytime this > issue is raised between core, new-bus people can reply about this, > newconfig people never have that chance. The issue hasn't been raised in -core. Doug built the system, and refined it in FreeBSD/alpha with encouragement from many of us. Last November, I set up a public mailing-list, announced it to the world several times, and used it to coordinate the further development. Peter and I developed the i386 part of the mechanism long after the Alpha side was well-entrenched. Peter and Doug continue to enhance it. The only discussion -core ever had on the topic was ``ok, when should we bring this into current?''. Once those milestones were met -- about four days, as I recall -- we threw the switch. By that time, a de facto decision had long since been made, since it's a well-known principle of volunteer projects that the people who do the work (like Doug with the Alpha port) are the ones who really make the decisions, by choosing which projects to spend their time on. > We contacted to the one of core who takes charge of kernel part, and > talked all problem about new-bus, before the decision is made. There is no such person as ``the one of core who takes charge of kernel part''. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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