From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 23:53:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300E01065670; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kientzle@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F728FC08; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kientzle@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so8555706gxk.19 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:53:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=AslYPxeE9KrS1VtFmHnqclaOIPvw5R2RluH9WnKqzCE=; b=hypbkIEjK4Xs4liHPGRL5mgooWYGEm/iiby6J8JjKLWm+IxvHedRFSRtjJFGxyyi4l kUJYJprM4rPufvpV3VtxaFYSxMw/o784KXYj1viep5WO4m7EtnjuoUObNiQXsNViyB+U rYCj8NbPiFdVLm7IzvQdzHQI68zwixPtVNZZA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=Gvw3nOCJhImubzOAEOpIp0g71TxEvQZZviei+ZL0SUQfKYOznYPgLKyyTlMx+v+KFH bXd+/R1kQYp/0VZvTwW1qthvaqOqJmzJxuMABIioGU7LJAwzUhyvD6eg/TiEzzDrgpP1 /8h7a6CBaj7bjSk+VINmwwYap+6vjtNQunSxc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kientzle@gmail.com Received: by 10.150.192.4 with SMTP id p4mr1258956ybf.204.1239148387206; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:53:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1239147806.98664.12.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <934e1d760904061455o4736d643o1d07e3292192d94c@mail.gmail.com> <1239077210.1908.39.camel@balrog.2hip.net> <49DAD429.6090309@freebsd.org> <1239078081.1908.41.camel@balrog.2hip.net> <49DAE987.7090802@freebsd.org> <1239086408.35025.59.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20090407185915.GY31409@albert.catwhisker.org> <49DBA371.3080804@freebsd.org> <92cd2ff70904071637h362da63ua13c1f8eca6fc616@mail.gmail.com> <1239147806.98664.12.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:53:07 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7171d6e814b141b7 Message-ID: <92cd2ff70904071653r4bf3b381lf5de220b2e280c0c@mail.gmail.com> From: Tim Kientzle To: Joe Marcus Clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: current@freebsd.org, Robert Noland Subject: Re: Hal and KDM breakage (was Re: KDE4 and input events stalled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:53:08 -0000 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > It's not a question of what hal is doing, but rather how console-kit > works (and hald depends on console-kit-daemon). It needs to be able to > monitor each of the active vtys... This is the part of the picture I'm still missing. *Why* does hald (via console-kit) care about tracking active vtys? (I presume hald actually doesn't care but that some client of hald needs this information.... ???) .... Bland did some work to correct this in -CURRENT, but it > won't work on other versions. It was just easier to leave the hack in > place. > > If this could be universally fixed in all supported versions of FreeBSD, > then I would be happy to remove the hacks. I'm still curious whether it's feasible to just not monitor the vtys. Tim