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Date:      Tue, 12 Jun 2018 08:10:18 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>,  svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r334939 - head/stand/lua
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On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> wrote:

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> On Jun 11, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> wrote:
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>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 7:07 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> wrote:
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>> At BSD Can there was the boot working group where we discussed that an
>> FCP would be required to decide this.
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> In the working group you weren't listening and being rather combative and
> demanding that I do stuff,
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>
> I think that's an unfair characterization of the situation, but it doesn't
> matter -- that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
>

I would like to unconditionally apologize for my harsh words to Devin here.
I let my frustration get the better of me, which I should not have done.
Devin has been quite helpful for a long time with the boot loader and
things related to FORTH, and I should not have lashed out like this. I hope
she can forgive my ill-chosen words.

> so I stopped talking.
>
>
> Hopefully we can _start_ talking. As the principled author of this work, I
> want to have a say in its deprecation since I still maintain that body of
> work.
>

Yes. Work is underway to get a draft of a FCP together to start a
discussion in arch to come to a data-driven decision. There's no desire to
exclude you from this process.

Warner



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