From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 22:53:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB76137B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C41C43FA3 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0352.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.199.97] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 198DBk-0004Lq-00; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:53:01 -0700 Message-ID: <3EA629F1.E69D4EFF@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:51:45 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway , Riccardo Torrini , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20030422031429.GA82023@chihiro.leafy.idv.tw> <20030423041754.N18663@gamplex.bde.org> <20030422203234.GE2843@trudy.torrini.home> <3EA62568.BE077889@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a447b640f5dcc2ada68bf9ba78395c896593caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: Re: Is there a header conflict? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 05:53:11 -0000 [ ... moved totally to -chat ... ] Terry Lambert wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > I've been offering for several years now to mentor you through the > > process of developing a prototype that is useful to FreeBSD and to > > work with you on getting it accepted into FreeBSD, but as usual you're > > more interested in talking about how cool it would be to have, than in > > following through with code. > > The code is trivial. Let me clarify this, since some people have asked me about my use of the word "trivial". I use it in the sense of mathematicians, which is to say: "A brain-dead iguana could do the work, though it might take a while for it to complete it". ...in other words, "grunt work". It takes no great creativity; the major obstacle to implementation is, in fact the "getting it accepted into FreeBSD" part; forgive me if my volunteerism doesn't extend to playing politics to get the code in question "accepted" by people who shouldn't be standing in the way of its adoption in the first place. A coworker at Novell coined a term called "AI"; it didn't stand for what you think it stands for normally, instead it stood for the term "Artificial Importance", which applies to people who put themselves between a goal and the people attempting to accomplish it, in order to make themselves important by becoming bottlenecks. -- Terry