Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:49:10 -0800 From: Robert Clark <res03db2@gte.net> To: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Cc: Trent Waddington <s337240@student.uq.edu.au>, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, David Johnson <djohnson@acuson.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Message-ID: <20010305124910.A44291@darkstar.gte.net> In-Reply-To: <20010304130501.A32152@lpt.ens.fr>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:05:01PM %2B0100 References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010303132348.04461420@localhost> <Pine.OSF.4.30.0103040637000.3518-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <20010304130501.A32152@lpt.ens.fr>
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I just recently heard a statement that helped me understand why the Grateful Dead allowed taping at their concerts. The statement went something like "At the end of the day, after the performance was over, Jerry went home from work like anyone else." Apparently, the band made a living "performing" their work. ... As the costs of publishing go down, there are two extremes on the range of options. One extreme is that distribution will be free, aside from the cost of the media and process. The other extreme, is that artificial constraints will be enforced, to make the costs as high as the market will bear. Its all about control. [RC] On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:05:01PM +0100, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Trent Waddington said on Mar 4, 2001 at 06:40:14: > > On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Brett Glass wrote: > > > > > Not true! Barlow wasn't involved in computer technology at all until he > > > got on the Well and then went to the Hackers' Conference in 1985. By then, > > > Stallman was already ranting about GNU. Barlow picked up Stallman's views > > > about copyright at that time. (It's also where he met Mitch Kapor.) I > > > know; I was an organizer of the conference. > > > > Dude, the Grateful Dead were popularising tape trading before they were > > popular, circa 1973. > > Well, they didn't permit "bootlegging" and they allowed tape trading > only when no money changed hands -- I think that's the policy of the > surviving members even today. It's not an anti-copyright stance, imo: > it's just a "lets be friendly to the fans" thing, with perhaps the > added rationale that people who hear your music in other ways first > are more likely to buy your albums later. They do not permit free > copying of their released albums, even on a non-profit basis. > > Nevertheless, I'm not convinced by the argument that Barlow, and > everyone else who disagrees with present-day copyright laws, has been > somehow brainwashed by Stallman. I don't think he's *that* > influential, and I don't think the issues are so trivial that he's the > only one interested in raising them. > > R > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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