From owner-freebsd-current Sun Aug 12 9:27:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A8A37B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:27:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7CGRoq00879; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:27:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7CGRnW01423; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:27:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200108121627.f7CGRnW01423@harmony.village.org> To: sos@freebsd.dk Subject: Re: FreeBSD's aggressive keyboard probe/attach Cc: Kazutaka YOKOTA , current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:23:44 +0200." <200108120823.f7C8Ni097169@freebsd.dk> References: <200108120823.f7C8Ni097169@freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:27:49 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200108120823.f7C8Ni097169@freebsd.dk> S ren Schmidt writes: : Exactly, I know the feeling, I could use a 40 hour week just for keeping : up with the ATA sutff, but getting that much time, AND having a day job : that pay the bills is simply not possible. Yes. pccard and cardbus issues could easily take 40 hours a week at times, and at least 10 hours a week all the time. I've been lucky the last few months to have a someone pay for some of the time I put into pccard, but that has been the exception rather than the rule. : If I could have a free wish, it would be for all those that complain : and use our sparse time with these endless discussions to develop the : needed skills and just get on with fixing the problems themselves, : *then* get back here with the solution. : : This is how this system is/was built guys.... I think it is possible to penetrate code that is hard to understand. It just takes a lot of time. It is easier to just complain. I know it took me a long time to grok OLDCARD... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message