From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 18:11:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544C616A41F for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 18:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from farris.bafirst.com (adsl-065-081-102-002.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [65.81.102.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E3913C458 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 18:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from HOME.encontacto.net ([189.129.2.135]) by farris.bafirst.com with esmtp; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:11:40 -0500 id 0006D421.4665A75D.0000354A Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by HOME.encontacto.net with local; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:11:36 -0500 id 0004AC23.4665A758.000048D4 Received: from dsl-189-129-2-135.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-129-2-135.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.129.2.135]) by intranet.encontacto.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:11:36 -0500 Message-ID: <20070605131136.f07dq9qaas8ws4gc@intranet.encontacto.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:11:36 -0500 From: eculp@encontacto.net To: Adam K Kirchhoff References: <499c70c0706050348x3cf9e50fn929b910e7c6b0519@mail.gmail.com> <466581B7.6080903@u.washington.edu> <20070605114034.zhsdibbccgwswk00@intranet.encontacto.net> <200706051303.11431.adamk@voicenet.com> In-Reply-To: <200706051303.11431.adamk@voicenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-cvs) X-Originating-IP: 189.129.2.135 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel C2D COREs not used equally in FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:11:43 -0000 Quoting Adam K Kirchhoff : > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 12:40:34 eculp@encontacto.net wrote: >> Quoting Garrett Cooper : >> > Diego Depaoli wrote: >> >> 2007/6/5, Ed Schouten : >> >>>> In practice there's (almost) only one reason not to run >> >>>> FreeBSD/amd64 on amd64-capable hardware: If you depend >> >>>> on a certain piece of software which is known not to run >> >>>> correctly in 64bit mode. Fortunately those are not many. >> >>> >> >>> I guess most of those are still waiting for a 64-bits nvidia.ko. >> >> >> >> That's true. >> >> Is there any news? >> > >> > Yeah, a lot of people are still waiting for that (including me.. >> > can't get nv to work under amd64 :(...). >> > We should band together and get nvidia to speed up amd64 >> > development a bit more *sigh*.. >> >> Boy am I glad that I am reading this thread. >> >> As weird as it may sound, I was going to go buy a new laptop, amd64 >> with nvidia. In fact the explanation given by Oliver helped push me >> over to AMD in addition to past experience has always been good with >> them. I also had the idea that AMD had purchased a chunk of nvidia >> which made the decision make even more sense to me. Luckily I saw >> these, before rather that after the fact. >> >> I understand from this that the nvidia will not run the new xorg-7.2 >> with AMD64? Am I reading this right or am I just having a case of >> PRE-buyers remorse? ;) > > It is true that the closed source nvidia driver will not work on an AMD64 > system. > > However, bear in mind that Xorg does not support any recent AMD cards (X13= 00 > or newer) with anything other than the vesa driver. The open source drive= rs > support up-to the x850 (actually, the x1050 now, iirc). The AMD/ATI Xpres= s > chipsets are supported by the open source 2D drivers, but not (yet) the 3D > drivers. > > Your best bet might be to go with a laptop with intel graphics. Hi Adam, Back to the drawing board as they say. I've been trying to make that =20 decision for a couple of weeks now, since my old laptop's disk died. I guess you are right but I should probably add a gig of memory to be =20 sure that all will be well. I had actually thought of upgrading it =20 from one to two and that just gives me justification ;) thanks, ed