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Date:      Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:57:27 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Jason Stone <freebsd-security@dfmm.org>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: bash as a login shell (was Root users shell == no existantshell /bin/bash)
Message-ID:  <20040709174707.K45935@walter>
In-Reply-To: <20040709204157.5f1f539f@bogomips.optonline.net>
References:  <40EECA19.3925.EDD9BBEB@localhost> <20040709142246.30a96c9f.djb@unixan.com> <20040709204157.5f1f539f@bogomips.optonline.net>

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> > To be honest, also, it's not always very obvious which shell you log
> > into at first.  Just going to the right shell in the first place
> > removes the confusion.
>
> ok, but when was bash declared the right shell for the job?

Please please please let's not get into this.

1) the original poster is screwed - sorry dude, you'll have to shutdown.

2) different people have different styles of adminning, each with
different good and bad points.  while there is some merrit in having that
discussion, most people are pretty firm in their opinions and it's
probably not worth it.

3) different people like different shells - okay, whatever.


the only possibly interesting thing that came up in this thread was the
idea of removing the "toor" account.  personally, I'd be for it.  since
the account is locked by default, anyone who wants to use it has to set it
up.  but since anyone who would know enough to want to use that style of
adminning and set it up could just as easily recreate the account "from
scratch" (it's about ten keystrokes any way you do it), then I don't see
that much benefit to including it, especially since it's not very popular
anymore anyway.


 -Jason

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