From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 9 12: 0:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4D237B409 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g59J05D96826; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200206091900.g59J05D96826@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Pat Lashley Subject: Re: docs/38924: Mailwrapper(8) or mailer.conf(5) should mention periodic knob for 'submit' queue Reply-To: Pat Lashley Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/38924; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Pat Lashley To: Ceri Davies Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/38924: Mailwrapper(8) or mailer.conf(5) should mention periodic knob for 'submit' queue Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 11:59:07 -0700 --==========3872057794========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Sunday, June 09, 2002 03:06:44 PM +0100 Ceri Davies=20 wrote: >> Sendmail has a separate 'submit' queue; and the daily periodic >> scripts contain code to check both queues. The code to check the submit >> queue can be bypassed by a configuration option in periodic.conf. But >> none of this is obvious to someone who is installing an alternate MTA; >> and leads to complaints about the unrecognized '-Ac' command-line param. > > The daily output is produced via the periodic scripts, so the best place > for this, in my opinion, would clearly be periodic.conf(5) where it's > already documented. > > It really doesn't have anything to do with mailwrapper. > > Would you agree ? If I agreed I wouldn't have submitted the bug/rfe. You are correct in that it doesn't -directly- have anything to do with the mailwrapper; but the impression given from the mailwrapper and mailer.conf scripts is that once you have installed and configured your non-sendmail MTA, all you need to do is to edit mailer.conf and restart your daemons to make the switchover. Most sysadmins will only discover the sendmail-specific periodic action when they get the error message in their nightly log message; and it takes a little digging to translate that message into the appropriate periodic knob. Particularly for sysadmins who abandoned sendmail years ago or who have never gained sendmail expertise in the first place. I think that it would make the sysadmin's life easier if the mail.conf and/or mailwrapper man pages included a mention, either of the specific knob, or of the simple existance of sendmail-specific periodic actions and a pointer to the periodic.conf man page. Putting it in the BUGS or NOTES section would be fine. I should also like to point out that the daily_status_include_submit_mailq entry in the periodic.conf man page fails to mention that it is sendmail- specific and should probably be turned off if using an alternate MTA. But that should probably be a new bug report. -Pat --==========3872057794========== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9A6V8ncYNbLD8wuMRAu5/AKD4O4PJcjyTHsGhsr7cf21UvKjnNQCfZQxo xQ17arY5HCpF2wYThDcXBzg= =nLAt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==========3872057794==========-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message