From owner-cvs-all Mon Aug 30 15:45:22 1999 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A3315338; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:45:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA67233; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199908302243.PAA67233@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/bin/mkdir mkdir.1 mkdir.c In-Reply-To: <199908302137.OAA00472@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Aug 30, 1999 02:37:26 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > Gentlefolk; > > > > > > could this thread-from-hell now die? > > > > Just as soon as Michael Hoek responds to just ONE of the emails > > I might consider letting it die. But has anyone noticed he seems > > to be silient on this list. Is he reading his commit mail? Would > > he care to answer my very direct and simply 3 original questions? > > You might get a better result if you call him by his real name, Michael > Haro. Yes, sorry about that, explained in other reply.. > > > I have no problem with the -v to cp, good technical arguments where > > made for it, _and_ it makes us compatible to fileutils 4.0. Similiar > > reasoning applies to rm, but not mkdir. > > The argument for mkdir is simple; orthagonality. That argument would say we should add this to all commands. That is why I asked the question ``Are you planning to add this to all commands?''. If you think I asked that just to ask, well, no, I really did want to know just what his plans where. > > In 12 more hours I intend to revert the code on mkdir unless he steps > > forward and at least makes a comment. > > That would be a very poor move. Commit wars are generally frowned > upon, especially when the new functionality has other supporters. You > most certainly don't have a mandate for a personal-agenda backout. This is not a commit war, I have followed the procedure. I have raised the issue and asked for a response. He has not responds, though others have, some want this to stay, some want it gone. Precedence says it goes away until this issue is resolved. I don't need a personal-agenda backout, it meats the SOP that has been here for a very long time, in case of conflict between wanting and not wanting a change it goes out until a final decision can be reached. > > If he does not make a comment I have to assume he is not reading > > commit mail and intend to ask that his commit access be suspended, > > as that has never been allowed. (Is this in the rules yet??) > > Actually, I think Mike is doing the smart thing and hoping that you'll > just go away. He doesn't need or want to get embroiled in a long and > pointless argument over another bus shelter. If he had responded, or if you had responded by directly answering the 3 questions I posed this would not be a drawen out thread. Telling me that your alternative was to import fileutils is not going to end this thread. If you feel this is a pointless argument, fine, that is your right, simple go away and ignore us. Remeber it takes two or more to argue... > If you want to talk constructively about the implementation of the > option, I'd suggest you get in touch with Martin Cracauer and sort it > out between yourselves, as he did have some valid points there. I have been talking, or at least ask about the intented plans, just how far is -v going to go, why is it needed on this specific command, etc. What I got was flame bait. Statements that the alternatives where fileutils 4.0, which I did go investigate and stated my findings, etc. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message