From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 15 09:48:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B58316A4BF for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao06.cox.net (lakemtao06.cox.net [68.1.17.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C6E43FB1 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kitbsdlist2@HotPOP.com) Received: from fortytwo ([68.109.49.234]) by lakemtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20030915164818.JJL4662.lakemtao06.cox.net@fortytwo>; Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:48:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:47:12 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: "Nigel Weeks" Message-Id: <20030915114712.5be4e571.kitbsdlist2@HotPOP.com> In-Reply-To: <000901c37b49$c75a7890$020aa8c0@aims.private> References: <000901c37b49$c75a7890$020aa8c0@aims.private> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'FreeBSD Advocacy' cc: 'Randi Harper' Subject: Re: FreeBSD Revamped Look 'n' feel: Feedback appreciated! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:48:21 -0000 On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:25:29 +1000 "Nigel Weeks" wrote: > ... People that judge > > FreeBSD by > > it's website, well, they can go back to their flash and glam > > Microsoft > > or RedHat sites. As far as I can tell, those people are going > > to be the > > ones that ask questions on the questions@ mailing lists > > without looking > > at the documentation first. That's about the level of stupidity and > > laziness involved. > > Unfortunately, mentioning this is counter-productive when said in possible > future client meetings...;-) > > Oh yeah, it's true. Too true. > But what can you do? We need these people to survive... > > Perhaps...keep freebsd.org as it is, but build freebsd.com as the > commercial/upper-management-tailored/abstracted from technical/whizz-bang > site... Yeah, building one for the brain dead could be useful. It would allow us to attract those that don't understand proffesionalism in least... such as upper management, who tend to think looks are the only thing that matter. > I dunno. I just know it'd be easier to sell, if people were impressed from > first glance. Seems shallow, yes, but might work?, maybe. Yeah, it would. But then we would have a site just a ugly and useless as the redhat site. Which if you want to create, yeah sure have fun. > Has anyone got better sales-tips, not tuned for sysadmins? It is free. It is powerful. It is stable, thus little time wasted on it not being down and thus not productive. Secure, less chance of it being compramised.