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Date:      Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:59:23 +0300
From:      Ari Suutari <ari@suutari.iki.fi>
To:        "Simon L. Nielsen" <simon@nitro.dk>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Any ongoing effort to port /etc/rc.d/pf_boot, /etc/pf.boot.conf from NetBSD ?
Message-ID:  <44BBDE0B.6050004@suutari.iki.fi>
In-Reply-To: <20060717122127.GC1087@zaphod.nitro.dk>
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Hi,
Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
> Since nobody else seems to have actually done this, I took a look at
> FreeBSD's rcorder (on my -CURRENT laptop) and actually I don't really
> see a hole.  Most importantly pf is enabled before routing.

	I did this yesterday, but this thread has gotten quite active
	so maybe you lost the results. But my findings were same as
	yours: pf is enabled before routing which means that the 	
	hole I was afraid of doesn't exist.
> 
> Personally I would still like a default to deny knob, but that's
> mainly to handle the case of an invalid ruleset which causes pf to be
> left open.  Yes, this is only a problem when the admin screws up, but
> it happens...

	Yes, and it might be quite common: some edits ruleset but
	leaves it unfinished because other, more high-priority
	jobs arrive (from boss...) and the someone other accidentally
	reboots your firewall... Default deny (or rc.d/pf_boot) would
	help here.

		Ari S.




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