From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 15:53:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3BC16A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:53:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFF943D53 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:53:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cs@ctzen.com) Received: from charon.ctzen.com (h0040055d253a.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.147.64.178]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20040608155338016000mh46e>; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:53:43 +0000 Received: from [10.50.4.40] (rpaushter.experience.com [10.50.4.40]) by charon.ctzen.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A0439815; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 11:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40C5E103.9010009@ctzen.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:53:39 -0400 From: Chiang Seng Chang User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa References: <20040608122101.GA68204@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20040608160517.B64702@pukruppa.net> <40C5D3CB.80907@ctzen.com> <20040608173530.K64702@pukruppa.net> In-Reply-To: <20040608173530.K64702@pukruppa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jonathon McKitrick cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Leaving a server on all day X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 15:53:46 -0000 Well... X is not started automatically (a.k.a. no gdm/kdm)... sometimes I'd like to "play" with some X stuff... I know there are other solution, like build on a fast machine and install onto the slow one. I didn't bother because 1) the server is still working while the upgrade is taking it's own sweet time, and more importantly 2) I have no fast machine ;-) I put x11 into the ignore list in pkgtools.conf, but the recent perl 5.8 upgrade seems to ignore that and build everything anyway. -cs p.s. sorry have to resend this cos' "toying" with my postfix canonical settings... Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Chiang Seng Chang wrote: > >> I also have an always-on "headless" server running for like 3 years >> now without any problem. >> >> I use it for: apache, samba, vpn, postfix (the "usual" server apps). >> >> I think the "key" is to use the minimal (translate: cooler, less power >> hungry) components. >> >> Mine is P2-400 with 5400 rpm HDDs. >> >> A UPS would be a nice addition. >> >> The ONLY issue I have is it takes a few *days* to do portupgrade -ar ;-) >> maybe I should just remove all the X stuff. > > You really should do this. All your services are configured via text > files anyway. > > Regards, > > Uli. > > > +---------------------------+ > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | > | Wuppertal | > | Germany | > +---------------------------+