From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 7 04:59:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D661065677 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:59:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC698FC16 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17076 invoked by uid 399); 7 Aug 2009 04:59:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.100?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 7 Aug 2009 04:59:14 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4A7BB49D.5060803@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:59:09 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: <20090806203123.F28161@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20090806203123.F28161@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports completely and permanently hosed X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:59:17 -0000 Lars Eighner wrote: > Believe me, if I can get back to my printer, camera, and mp3 player > all working (which last occurred about 6.2 or so) I'll never upgrade > again. Of course it is kind of lonely when your release is orphaned, > which happens in the blink of an eye, but if the kernel supports all the > hardware, I'm pretty sure I can install any apps that I suddenly decide I > have to have myself. I'm not saying this to be snarky, but you might seriously consider trying another open source operating system to see if it meets your needs better. There is a reason that there are so many choices out there nowadays, different people have different needs. For all the strides we've made in the "desktop/end user" areas in the 15 years I've been a FreeBSD user it is still, primarily, a server system; especially when compared to other systems like Ubuntu that are focused on the end user. You're clearly very frustrated, and I'm not going to judge whether your frustration is justified or not. But before you expend a lot more energy railing about the sad state FreeBSD is in you might want to put that energy in a more productive direction. Doug