From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 26 16:58:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from CRWdog.demon.co.uk (adsl-216-103-105-71.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.105.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B39737B417 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:58:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by CRWdog.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197EB3E41; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:58:01 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Sam Drinkard Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:49:45 EST." <3C2A45F9.EBF0C148@vortex.wa4phy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1538300369P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:58:01 -0800 From: Andy Sparrow Message-Id: <20011227005801.197EB3E41@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-1538300369P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Well, having followed this thread for some bit, I gotta throw my $.02 > worth in.. I'm one of those who has machines connected via a "dumb" > 10baseT hub, and auto everything doesn't work. I think the whole point > is that a certain amount of knowledge is required *before* one should > attempt to build a network. Both the 4.5-Pre machine as well as the > RH-7 box have identical nic's in them, but alas, *neither one* knows > about the other one. Only a manual configuration of the one in the 4.5 > machine is configurable. RH 7, with same card is not. It's MY dilemma, > and despite all the chit-chat, what do you do when you *can't* configure > a card manually, and it won't auto-negotiate? > > Sam Buy a card that Just Works? ;) I do sympathize - I've got 6 DEC 21x4x-based cards here (two generations of NIC for my home network) that /never/ worked properly with any of my switches regardless of settings, and I struggled with them for ages (I won't tell you what I paid for 'em way back when, but you could buy a respectable desktop for that now), before replacing them with Intel or Kingston cards. Which like, Just Worked @ 100/full "out of the box". No user intervention required. (Unfortunately the Kingston card only worked for 6 weeks before dying totally, but that's a different issue). Personally, I think the Intel 8255x cards rock. They have a lifetime warranty from Intel (I'm told, I've never had one go bad) and second-hand ones are cheaper on Ebay than a new RealTek card. Surplus new ones can sometimes be had for a song too, since they started being OEM'ed. Oh, and they work well with FreeBSD - IIRC, ftp.cdrom.com use(d) this NIC? Cheers, AS --==_Exmh_-1538300369P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE8KnIYPHh895bDXeQRAntTAJ94Cjqp8IAb5So8TqSUyZ/zGx9FmwCgvoFo nBIY+9qPkdlyHcVM0YizBqA= =MIxe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1538300369P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message