From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 17 17:30:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289FB16A418 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C70213C469 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IiCi9-0007VN-At for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:29:37 +0000 Received: from 89-172-55-34.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.55.34]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:29:37 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-55-34.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:29:37 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:28:35 +0200 Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <20071017133352.GE67677@pcjas.obspm.fr> <47161B5D.9050002@pacific.net.sg> <20071017165423.G89276@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <13413b8f0710170920t5e5a03f9tcd703e6239db0296@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig958835508D5AD76791B5D57F" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-55-34.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) In-Reply-To: <13413b8f0710170920t5e5a03f9tcd703e6239db0296@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Sender: news Subject: Re: Why 7.0 is so late ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:30:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig958835508D5AD76791B5D57F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gueven Bay wrote: > So, but the original question was : What is not working _now_ at this > moment so that 7 cannot be released _now_ ? I can think of several issues of the top of my head: - rt_check bug in network routing causes panics under certain circumnstances (my favorite) - ZFS relatively often panics the system under high load - Something's also wrong with UFS under certain circumstances (this one hasn't bit me yet) Of these, first one has a patch (as of yesterday) that is very likely to solve the problem, the second has a temporary-looking patch to patch around the problem, and the third bug is still not tracked down yet. There may be more. I seem to recall there's something in the TCP/IP stack but it has never bit me so I don't know the details. The point is - you *don't* want an unstable operating system on a production machine. It's best we all wait until these get solved. Yes, theoretically there could be a release with these known bugs still unresolved, but I recall at least one previous release that did that (IIRC 6.0 with (g)vinum was unbootable under some circustances) and that has resulted in a bunch of negative press toward FreeBSD. --------------enig958835508D5AD76791B5D57F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHFkZDldnAQVacBcgRAh2IAKDUSNVL69cT1TkZ2iJBEEj5HLO/WQCaAjJj mNthqhhuY0W/oaA8oAwq7E4= =y4XM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig958835508D5AD76791B5D57F--